Bergdahl Release - Right thing to do?

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koolkat wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:: Absolutely....he his being protected.. and that includes protection from himself.

When did they notify you of that?

If you can't figure that one out....I'm feel sorry for you.

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No, I don't make assumptions and spew them as facts. I'm a little smarter than that.

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No one said anything about assumptions. If you research his background you will see this is a young man that has struggled his entire life.

Bergdahl was discharged from the US Coast Guard for psychological reasons two years before he enlisted in the military, according to friends who have argued he should never have been permitted to serve in Afghanistan.
The claims came amid angry scenes in US Congress where Chuck Hagel, the defence secretary, was forced to defend the controversial prisoner exchange deal which saw five Taliban detainees released from Guantanamo Bay.
A 21-year-old Bergdahl received an “uncharacterised discharge” after just 26 days of basic training in early 2006, according to official Coast Guard records. However, a close friend of the former prisoner of war told The Washington Post newspaper that the reasons were psychological.

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What does that have to do with having two sponsors? If he were that psychologically damaged he would still be in the hospital. The sponsors are for protection from other people-not himself.

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koolkat wrote:: What does that have to do with having two sponsors? If he were that psychologically damaged he would still be in the hospital. The sponsors are for protection from other people-not himself.

Sounds like an assumption you say you don't make.

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BTW, a "sponsor" is typically assigned to anyone reporting to a new duty station. I've been a sponsor before myself. You just try to help the newbie out with directions, facility information, you know (or maybe you don't) where to go to get things done and who to talk to.

Besides the Army has changed a lot in the last five years so new policies and procedures have to be learned. Among other things.

I wouldn't assign any real reason beyond that to Bergdahls sponsor.

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Bergdahls new duty station sitting in an office sounds a lot cushier than the office the guys he walked away from are used to.

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I find it very strange that Bergdahl has refused to see or speak with his parents since his return. As of yesterday there has been no communication at the request of Bergdahl.

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nochain wrote:

koolkat wrote:: What does that have to do with having two sponsors? If he were that psychologically damaged he would still be in the hospital. The sponsors are for protection from other people-not himself.

Sounds like an assumption you say you don't make.

No that's just a fact.

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nochain wrote:: Bergdahls new duty station sitting in an office sounds a lot cushier than the office the guys he walked away from are used to.

They weren't a POW for 5 yrs.

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Bergdahl is still under going out-patient therapy.

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koolkat wrote:

nochain wrote:: Bergdahls new duty station sitting in an office sounds a lot cushier than the office the guys he walked away from are used to.

They weren't a POW for 5 yrs.

That's because they chose to fight and do their duty to their fellow soldiers and country - not walk away.......

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koolkat wrote:

nochain wrote:

koolkat wrote:: What does that have to do with having two sponsors? If he were that psychologically damaged he would still be in the hospital. The sponsors are for protection from other people-not himself.

Sounds like an assumption you say you don't make.

No that's just a fact.

Got a reference for that "fact"? Otherwise it's an assumption on your part.

Subject: Re: Bergdahl Release - Right thing to do? Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:14 pm

I find it strange that he hasn't contacted his parents too.

Hell, I would at least want to talk to them via the phone.

We could fill up volumes of conjecture on that one...

Subject: Re: Bergdahl Release - Right thing to do? Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:18 pm

He didn't lose his head so he may have been a deep cover operative....also duty to country ?..what's that? go kill a bunch of poor brown people that have done absolutely nothing to us ? It is so much fun watching their heads explode from a sniper round ....yes brave, patriotic and psychotic....

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"In 2008, he spoke to a family friend who was working as a missionary in Uganda about going over to Africa to teach "self-defense techniques" to villagers being targeted by brutal militias like the Lord's Resistance Army. He and his father even fantasized about the creation of a special operations unit to "kill these f*" in Africa, imagining that "someone needed to run an op with some military people dressed up like U.N. people" to take out warlords in Darfur and Sudan. Before a spot in the friend's missionary program could open up, though, Bowe had decided on a different adventure."

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:: He didn't lose his head so he may have been a deep cover operative....also duty to country ?..what's that? go kill a bunch of poor brown people that have done absolutely nothing to us ? It is so much fun watching their heads explode from a sniper round ....yes brave, patriotic and psychotic....

Brown? Guess you've never been over there. More like caucasian, some with tans. So you wouldn't shoot a terrorist?

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nochain wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:: He didn't lose his head so he may have been a deep cover operative....also duty to country ?..what's that? go kill a bunch of poor brown people that have done absolutely nothing to us ? It is so much fun watching their heads explode from a sniper round ....yes brave, patriotic and psychotic....

Brown? Guess you've never been over there. More like caucasian, some with tans. So you wouldn't shoot a terrorist?

Bet he would have deserted from there too.... He's one of the three mentioned...'psychotic'...

Subject: Re: Bergdahl Release - Right thing to do? Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:36 am

nochain wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:: He didn't lose his head so he may have been a deep cover operative....also duty to country ?..what's that? go kill a bunch of poor brown people that have done absolutely nothing to us ? It is so much fun watching their heads explode from a sniper round ....yes brave, patriotic and psychotic....

Brown? Guess you've never been over there. More like caucasian, some with tans. So you wouldn't shoot a terrorist?

Well most would say "terrorist" is a relative term...I am 100% sure our founding fathers were terrorists as far as the Brits were concerned...I am also 100% sure Americans troops are terrorists as far as the Iraqis and Afghans are aware...

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:

nochain wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:: He didn't lose his head so he may have been a deep cover operative....also duty to country ?..what's that? go kill a bunch of poor brown people that have done absolutely nothing to us ? It is so much fun watching their heads explode from a sniper round ....yes brave, patriotic and psychotic....

Brown? Guess you've never been over there. More like caucasian, some with tans. So you wouldn't shoot a terrorist?

Well most would say "terrorist" is a relative term...I am 100% sure our founding fathers were terrorists as far as the Brits were concerned...I am also 100% sure Americans troops are terrorists as far as the Iraqis and Afghans are aware...

Whatever

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nochain wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

nochain wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:: He didn't lose his head so he may have been a deep cover operative....also duty to country ?..what's that? go kill a bunch of poor brown people that have done absolutely nothing to us ? It is so much fun watching their heads explode from a sniper round ....yes brave, patriotic and psychotic....

Brown? Guess you've never been over there. More like caucasian, some with tans. So you wouldn't shoot a terrorist?

Well most would say "terrorist" is a relative term...I am 100% sure our founding fathers were terrorists as far as the Brits were concerned...I am also 100% sure Americans troops are terrorists as far as the Iraqis and Afghans are aware...

Whatever

To equate American troops and the Founding Fathers to 'terrorists' is 100% incorrect and disgusting....

Subject: Re: Bergdahl Release - Right thing to do? Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:49 am

Good , You should be disgusted with our foreign policy of shock and awe...it's coming back here though. I know you are a government suck-up but unless you are DHS or TSA , if you are former military YOU are now the biggest terrorist threat...As much as I hate him Kissinger was right about soldiers...

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:: Good , You should be disgusted with our foreign policy of shock and awe...it's coming back here though. I know you are a government suck-up but unless you are DHS or TSA , if you are former military YOU are now the biggest terrorist threat...As much as I hate him Kissinger was right about soldiers...

So how's the weather in Area 51?.... affraid

Subject: Re: Bergdahl Release - Right thing to do? Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:08 am

You need watch the media more. You honestly don't know homeland security classifies returning troops as the biggest terrorist threat ?

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TEOTWAWKI wrote:: You need watch the media more. You honestly don't know homeland security classifies returning troops as the biggest terrorist threat ?

Quite a stretch there. The OLD assessment indicated SOME returning Vets who were having assimilation problems MIGHT be susceptible to recruitment by domestic extremist groups. In any case, when has this administration ever been right about anything?

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