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Eric

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PostSubject: FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere   FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere EmptyMon Nov 03, 2014 10:13 am

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The techniques involve clandestinely installing malicious software, or malware, onto a computer that in turn allows federal agents effectively to control the machine, downloading all its digital contents, switching its camera or microphone on or off, and even taking over other computers in its network

This is some scary shit.

Of course, this program would NEVER be abused... yeah, right!

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PostSubject: Re: FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere   FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere EmptyMon Nov 03, 2014 11:40 am

A little late but "1984" seems to be appropriate reading now. Makes me wonder who is really in charge, if anyone, of these agencies.
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PostSubject: Re: FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere   FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere EmptyMon Nov 03, 2014 12:22 pm

Sometime around Clinton they replaced the constitution with Chairman Mao's little red book.
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PostSubject: Re: FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere   FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere EmptyMon Nov 03, 2014 3:58 pm

Clapper sat right in front of congress and denied it too... yet didn't even lose his job.
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PostSubject: Re: FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere   FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 7:42 am

nochain wrote:
A little late but "1984" seems to be appropriate reading now. Makes me wonder who is really in charge, if anyone, of these agencies.

Used to be nice when 'reasonable suspicion'.....'probable cause'...and warrants were part of the process...of course that still gave power to the judicial system to grant but better than just allowing a government agency total access....what could possibly go wrong?....
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PostSubject: Re: FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere   FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 9:17 am

Well, supposedly a judge is going to grant a warrant for this.

If the past is any indication, the judge will have a rubber stamp that says "approved".

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In all, over the entire 33-year period, the FISA (surveillance) court has granted 33,942 warrants, with only 11 denials – a rejection rate of 0.03 percent of the total requests.
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PostSubject: Re: FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere   FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 9:48 am

Eric wrote:
Well, supposedly a judge is going to grant a warrant for this.  

If the past is any indication, the judge will have a rubber stamp that says "approved".

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In all, over the entire 33-year period, the FISA (surveillance) court has granted 33,942 warrants, with only 11 denials – a rejection rate of 0.03 percent of the total requests.

Agree.... If there's already a foregone conclusion that it's needed then a signature with just be a formality...NOT comforting whatsoever.... Just bugs [no pun intended] that our rights are given away so easily...Ex: Sen Feinstein was alright with this process until someone on her staff was monitored and then it wasn't....but what did the senator or any or the other senators do about it?.....Made excuses and moved on....
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Makes the IRS nervous when they think we the people might actually talk in a group using words like this :

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
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PostSubject: Re: FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere   FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere EmptyTue Nov 04, 2014 10:51 am

FBI secretly seeking legal power to hack any computer, anywhere Thomas-jefferson-quotes-4

Disclaimer:  There is no written proof that Jefferson said this, but it is a good thought anyway.



How about this one that is undisputed:

Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty - Thomas Jefferson
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