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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Letter to Iran Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:01 am | |
| http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/03/10/iran-nuclear-talks-letter-47-senators-sen-tom-cotton-editorials-debates/24721971/
The big talkingpoints are that it's treason or that the pubs are siding with Iran... both preposterous. The entire point was that Obama is enabling Iran to maintain it's nuclear program... which is aiding a self-proclaimed enemy of the US. What is to be gained by this? What benefit does this negotiation and deal provide to the world? Who thinks a nation that sponcers terrorism should have an endorsed path to nuclear arms? Just what we need... a nuclear suicide bomber. | |
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nochain
Posts : 2888 Join date : 2013-04-24
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:03 am | |
| Iran is not to be trusted - as they have proven MANY times in the past. | |
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mediawatcher
Posts : 3139 Join date : 2013-08-07
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:14 pm | |
| - nochain wrote:
- Iran is not to be trusted - as they have proven MANY times in the past.
This is really a no brainer....giving Iran the benefit of the doubt?...What logic can be applied to this type of thinking that justifies this as sound foreign policy?...They've sponsored terrorists/terrorism throughout the M/E and beyond which has resulted in deaths/injuries to Americans and yet this administration continues to bend over for these thugs...The cowh was correct about one thing when analyzing the Netanyahu speech...there was nothing new...and that is the problem...Iran is giving nothing new to be trusted and this administration is convinced otherwise... | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:33 am | |
| I found it humorous that kerry had to acknowledge the true nature of the agreement yesterday. That it indeed is not binding. I'd like the entire terms made open prior to any further dialogue. The language yesterday called it "verification of their nuclear program"... that's not even the same ballpark as limiting or dismantling. I wouldn't trust kerry or obama to negotiate buying a used car for me... much less this bs. | |
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mediawatcher
Posts : 3139 Join date : 2013-08-07
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:22 am | |
| - PkrBum wrote:
- I found it humorous that kerry had to acknowledge the true nature of the agreement yesterday. That it indeed is not binding. I'd like the entire terms made open prior to any further dialogue. The language yesterday called it "verification of their nuclear program"... that's not even the same ballpark as limiting or dismantling. I wouldn't trust kerry or obama to negotiate buying a used car for me... much less this bs.
He also was quoted.....We can defeat IS but we're not going to get suckered into that......And this is the spokesman for our foreign policy? Has there ever been an administration that is so far out of touch or displayed so much incompetence on so many issues?.... This is exactly like the [name] cowh healthcare legislation....let's get this passed [then we'll worry about what was agreed to]... so that he [cowh] can place a checkmark beside the issue that will in his mind benefit his administration in history after his departure.... As Netanyahu pointed out....this entire agreement doesn't even contain anything about Iran's weapon delivery systems which has the capacity [according to intelligence sources] of reaching long range...Further...the PM warned about an arm's race in the M/E should this agreement go through...immediately afterwards there were reports that Saudi Arabia were exploring preliminary talks with S Korea about obtaining nuclear technology...What a nightmare in that part of the world where several nations may have nukes.... | |
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TEOTWAWKI
Posts : 2169 Join date : 2012-07-30 Location : FEMA Region 4
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:43 am | |
| Ah the drum beats of war....the heartbeat of America...The deadliest nation that ever existed and not to be trusted....bomb bomb bomb Iran sings McCain and the Iranians shouldn't be worried or a nuclear power? Hell ,The only countries we don't blow to hell and pieces are nuclear armed nations..sooooo. | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:56 am | |
| War? I'm sure you don't believe that's what I'm proposing. The only thing more stupid would be allowing any path toward a nuclear bomb... that would ensure war. The sanctions and ostrazation were effective... hence them negotiating at all. | |
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mediawatcher
Posts : 3139 Join date : 2013-08-07
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:27 pm | |
| - PkrBum wrote:
- War? I'm sure you don't believe that's what I'm proposing. The only thing more stupid would be allowing any path toward a nuclear bomb... that would ensure war. The sanctions and ostrazation were effective... hence them negotiating at all.
Have heard no one proposing war...like Netanyahu said...continue and we'll wake up with a nuclear iran and then that will certainly a nightmare....Then those that are on the sidelines and are supportive of this one side negotiations will wonder how this happened after it's too late...There is support within the M/E because the other contries don't want Iran to have these weapons...So because they are in the region they should be in the forefront of any negotiations and/or solutions...it's their litter box! | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:07 am | |
| It's absurd and ridiculous to begin the negotiation under the pretense that iran is pursuing a nuclear program for peaceful purposes. They have enough energy reserves in just oil to last for centuries. If they wanted a backup... solar makes much more sense given their location and climate. How dumb can world leaders be? Loosening the sanctions have already allowed them to increase influence... imagine that unimpeded.
http://m.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-iran-in-new-nuclear-talks-as-tempers-fray/article1-1326572.aspx
" If Iran's nuclear programme is indeed "peaceful," as Tehran says, "let's getitdone," Kerry said.
The United States and Iran have not had diplomatic relations for 35 years and the standoff over Tehran's nuclear programme has dogged its international relations for more than a decade.
Under a landmark November 2013 interim deal, Tehran stopped expanding its activities in return for minor sanctions relief. Since then the parties have been pushing for a lasting accord.
But to the alarm of Israel and US Republicans, Washington looks to have abandoned insisting that Iran dismantles all nuclear activities, tolerating instead a small programme under tight controls.
In theory, this still leaves Iran with the possibility to get the bomb." | |
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Eddard
Posts : 614 Join date : 2014-09-20
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:47 pm | |
| Well, the Republicans all sat around listening to Netanyahu and he might be a part of history in just a few days. I hope so.
You cannot ENFORCE an agreement with a foreign nation like Iran unless you CONTROL that nation. That's why negotiating is exactly all we can do right now . All the bluster and threatening in the world isn't going to force Iran to do something they don't want to do. We have to give them reason to want to do it. Right now they are doing the job of cleaning ISIS out of Iraq. Basically cleaning up some of the mess we created when we took out Saddam.
By the time that's over Iran and Iraq will be best buddies and Americans will be able to see what thousands of American lives were lost for. It was always going to happen. And eventually Iran will get nuclear weapons just like North Korea and Pakistan and a lot of other countries that are not our friends. The truth is that a lot of younger Iranians would love to be friends with the US if we could ever understand that Israel is not the only country in the Middle east with a right to exist and govern itself. | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:35 am | |
| http://www.rferl.mobi/a/iranians-optimistic-about-nuclear-talks/26905723.html
Iran’s nuclear chief Ali Akhbar Salehi has said there was agreement on “90 percent of the technical issues" at talks over the country's nuclear program.
Iranian state television quoted Salehi as making the comment on March 17 during negotiations in Lausanne,Switzerland.
He said the sides “have differences only in one major issue which we will try to solve in this evening's meeting" between Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.
He did not elaborate on the issue which was still unsolved.
A senior U.S. official was quoted as saying the sides “definitely made progress in terms of identifying technical options for each of the major areas." | |
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Eric
Posts : 9738 Join date : 2012-07-30 Age : 73 Location : Pensacola
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:24 pm | |
| I believe the issue is the US inspection of the military base where nuclear testing is thought to be actively researched. | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:08 am | |
| The sanctions served a purpose and even with those they've been acting provocative in neighboring countries. I don't even trust their agenda in iraq or yemen or anywhere else. I'd like to see them act in a rational and positive manner before there's any talk of a "peaceful nuclear program". Why would they even need a nuclear program except to build a bomb? They have enough oil to power their country for centuries. | |
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TEOTWAWKI
Posts : 2169 Join date : 2012-07-30 Location : FEMA Region 4
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:44 am | |
| Only one country has ever incinerated 100s of thousands of civilians with atomic bombs. | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:01 pm | |
| http://wap.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/un-nuclear-agency-regrets-slow-pace-of-iran-cooperation-115032400066_1.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/un-nuclear-watchdog-iran-not-providing-needed-information-access/2015/03/24/6557b24a-d23d-11e4-8fce-3941fc548f1c_story.html | |
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nochain
Posts : 2888 Join date : 2013-04-24
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:58 am | |
| - PkrBum wrote:
- http://wap.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/un-nuclear-agency-regrets-slow-pace-of-iran-cooperation-115032400066_1.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/un-nuclear-watchdog-iran-not-providing-needed-information-access/2015/03/24/6557b24a-d23d-11e4-8fce-3941fc548f1c_story.html The Post article says it all, Iran is just like Iraq under Saddam Insane - sign an agreement and then ignore it. As I said above, they can't be trusted. It's true that younger Iranians want the same things most young people want - an opportunity to succeed. They will never have that opportunity with Islamic fundamentalists in charge. The support Iran is giving Iraq reminds me of the support China gives North Korea, eventually the aid recipient becomes a lapdog so Iran will become entrenched in Iraq and we have a bigger problem. Oblamer is letting this happen because he has no interest in foreign policy, he has no strategy, and he has no strong adviser's to make sense out of the world. In short he is a foreign policy idiot alienating every major ally we have (had) and enabling those who oppose us. | |
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mediawatcher
Posts : 3139 Join date : 2013-08-07
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:10 am | |
| - nochain wrote:
- PkrBum wrote:
- http://wap.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/un-nuclear-agency-regrets-slow-pace-of-iran-cooperation-115032400066_1.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/un-nuclear-watchdog-iran-not-providing-needed-information-access/2015/03/24/6557b24a-d23d-11e4-8fce-3941fc548f1c_story.html The Post article says it all, Iran is just like Iraq under Saddam Insane - sign an agreement and then ignore it. As I said above, they can't be trusted. It's true that younger Iranians want the same things most young people want - an opportunity to succeed. They will never have that opportunity with Islamic fundamentalists in charge. The support Iran is giving Iraq reminds me of the support China gives North Korea, eventually the aid recipient becomes a lapdog so Iran will become entrenched in Iraq and we have a bigger problem. Oblamer is letting this happen because he has no interest in foreign policy, he has no strategy, and he has no strong adviser's to make sense out of the world. In short he is a foreign policy idiot alienating every major ally we have (had) and enabling those who oppose us.
Well now he and the new Afghani President get along....after the cowh changed and said that the troop draw down in Afghanistan will be slowed/stopped to maintain troop levels.....AMAZING that when Generals...and many republican law makers had suggested the same thing a year ago they are called 'hawks'...'warmongers' and accused of attempting to sabotage the cowh's foreign policy.....Now the far left wackos of the dem party are ticked at their leader for flip flopping and not pulling out of Afghanistan as promised....If the change came as a result of IS in Iraq after troops left...then that must mean that even the cowh knows that his foreign policy is a joke.... | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:38 pm | |
| http://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/carroll/article/An-agreement-to-agree-except-maybe-not-6184020.php | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:37 pm | |
| The obama administration has now passed carter to become the worst negotiators in the history of our country.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0N00EQ20150409?irpc=932 | |
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mediawatcher
Posts : 3139 Join date : 2013-08-07
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:43 pm | |
| - PkrBum wrote:
- The obama administration has now passed carter to become the worst negotiators in the history of our country.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0N00EQ20150409?irpc=932 To place the inspections in the hands of the UN...with Russia having the ability to run interference...how can anyone believe that this is in the best interest of the US...and our allies...well those that will still allow themselves to align themselves with us...The team of the cowh and John Lerch Kerry have done the almost impossible...make Carter look better.... | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:11 pm | |
| It looks like the ayatollah might have saved the world from our dear leaders.
Unless of course obama and kerry cave to this demand... which is possible. | |
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polecat
Posts : 365 Join date : 2013-01-03
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:07 pm | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:28 pm | |
| http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/22/politics/obama-ships-yemen-iran/
Lol... I'm still not sure why anyone thght he would have a clue about international relations. | |
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Eric
Posts : 9738 Join date : 2012-07-30 Age : 73 Location : Pensacola
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:03 pm | |
| Those ships should be there to deter rearming Yemeni forces. | |
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PkrBum
Posts : 1017 Join date : 2013-02-14 Location : 45th Parallel
| Subject: Re: Letter to Iran Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:27 pm | |
| The saudis blocked the airlifts... it'd be nice to get the truth for a change. | |
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