The Traitor to be Charged

Berghdal to be charged as the traitor POS that he is....

Traitor or disserter?

SheWrites wrote:

Traitor or disserter?

    Both....by leaving his unit by his own free will/choice [desertion] he became a traitor to his country:

    1) Due to his choice there were deaths of American Soldiers that were performing their duties looking for this POS

    2) Due to his captivity there was a release of five enemies of the United States to get this POS freed

     Another example of incompetence and lack of respect for the military by the cowh and his administration.....True Heroes and their families are not afforded a Rose Garden Reception hosted by the cowh/cic but this POS's family are front and center?....The highest ranking Army Officer was murdered in Afghanistan and not one representative from this administration attended the funeral....

Just look at the ethics of the cowh and a lot of the congressmen from both parties, then imagine the ethics of the voters that put them in office... There are some good ones in congress, but they are outnumbered by the greedy ones with questionable ethics.. WHY won't the good ones demand prosecution of the crooked ones???

Whatever happened to MW's sacrosanct "wait until all evidence is in and justice is served"?

It comes under the UCMJ, which is an entirely different system than what the general public has.. It's used due to the distances and constant transfers of people who are possible witnesses.. Imagine needing a witness who's on a submarine under water for the next 3-4 months.. Do they interrupt the mission of the sub to bring the witness back or delay the trial.. The system was designed way before airplanes and automobiles when it could take months or years for a message to reach somebody half way around the world and they would have to be returned by sailing ship..

Eric wrote:

Whatever happened to MW's sacrosanct "wait until all evidence is in and justice is served"?

    Nice try.....no hypocrisy or being 'sacrosanct' on this issue....   After Bergdahl deserted it was investigated by the Army and shortly thereafter the penatagon agreed/signed off on the report and concluded that indeed Bergdahl had deserted his unit by his own choice and free will.  This investigation is the reason how  the facts came out that....Bergdahl had written letters that he disapproved of the military role in Afghanistan....Had concerns about his role in the military that conflicted with his humanitarian beliefs .....had conflicts with some of his superiors and their directions/orders...and than right before his desertion he mailed home personal property etc.,....What evidence has been excluded?. So my opinions aren't based on there not being an investigation unlike 'some' that have jumped to conclusions and concluded guilt prior to an investigation again nice try...Interviews with those that served with him both enlisted and officers corroborate the desertion on his own free will/choice....

    Appears that only this administration is attempting to save face on this issue....

Jake92 wrote:

It comes under the UCMJ, which is an entirely different system than what the general public has..  It's used due to the distances and constant transfers of people who are possible witnesses..  Imagine needing a witness who's on a submarine under water for the next 3-4 months..  Do they interrupt the mission of the sub to bring the witness back or delay the trial..  The system was designed way before airplanes and automobiles when it could take months or years for a message to reach somebody half way around the world and they would have to be returned by sailing ship..  

Correct 'jake'.... fortunately in this case the witnesses were able to immediately be interviewed and there was an investigation into the matter....This is nothing more than Washington DC [administration] poking into a matter that has been investigated...Some would think it would be justice for this POS to get $200,000 in backpay...POW rights and pay for life that includes free education/medical....and most disgusting of all an Honorable Discharge...Well what the hell they gave Biden's coke snorting son an honorable discharge......A tremendous slap in the faces of anyone that served...serving....sacrificed and those that paid with the ultimate sacrifice....This shouldn't be a political issue and those that have made it such are gutless bastards with no conscience....

I agree 100% MW..  Before the bleeding heart liberals, he would have been shot on sight or hung after a speedy trial..  

What would Chesty do?

mediawatcher wrote:

     Berghdal to be charged as the traitor POS that he is....

Justice!

Nice try, MW.  He still hasn't had his day in court.  Note the title of the thread.  "to be charged".

It is funny when there is a preponderance of evidence, isn't there.

I think he is guilty as sin, but I just had to point out the hypocrisy. I guess he is convicted before he is charged?

Eric wrote:

Nice try, MW.  He still hasn't had his day in court.  Note the title of the thread.  "to be charged".

It is funny when there is a preponderance of evidence, isn't there.  

I think he is guilty as sin, but I just had to point out the hypocrisy.  I guess he is convicted before he is charged?

   Not even  compararable....you and some others jumped the gun [no pun intended] on the high profile police cases across the country not only prior to an investigation beginning much less concluded...the assertions were that once again the police were wrong...cover for each other corruption etc., you know the usual crap...then when there is a verdict or in the most recent cases a non verdict someone got it wrong.. I stated in these cases to allow the investigations to run the course and allow the judicial system to do its' job and in the high profile cases justice was done ..In this case of Bergdahl...not going to rehash the evidence/proof that came out in the official Army investigation...but there was an investigation and it was ruled...desertion....The Pentagon sign off and the case was closed...

   Not against a Court Martial for Bergdahl but the POS should have never been returned to duty and the Court Martial should have been done long before this...I WANT a Court Martial because they can then control the media circus that would acconpany a civilian trial....

   It matters to me that this POS got Soldiers killed and that his parents were nothing but a photo op and publicity stunt by the cowh for a POS deserter!....The interference by the cowh interferred with and got in the way of a process that had already concluded...It bothers me that five terrorists were freed to get back a POS that intentionally and wilfully turned his back on his fellow soldiers and his country. It bothers me that Susan Rice called his service honorable..this administration wouldn't know honorable if it bit them in the ass!..Too harsh of an assesment?...Too freakin' bad!...Time to quit the touchy feely crap and call it what it is...desertion!...In earlier days of our military there was battlefied justice in these matters...

Jake92 wrote:

I agree 100% MW..  Before the bleeding heart liberals, he would have been shot on sight or hung after a speedy trial..  

What would Chesty do?

You know what Chesty would have done!....Upon the conclusion of the Army Investigation and the Pentagon agreeing that it was desertion...guess that was him being charged based on the investigation...

The problem is this is a political case now which is why the Army has been dragging its heels for so long. I can almost see it - this lands on some Generals desk and he thinks - keep shuffling it around and make it someone else's problem. I saw many U.A.'s and desertion cases and never saw one drag on this long. Mitigating circumstances notwithstanding. Really it's no different from a military member strolling off base in any country and getting "arrested". They sit in jail but they are still a deserter after 30 days. Case closed.

Yeah, how many generals have been relieved during the time frame of the Obama administration. They all tread lightly on these "political" cases.

I have a feeling under Obama.....the administration will state Bergdahl cannot be held accountable for his actions because he was under extreme duress while serving.

Bergdahl had a hard time choosing between becoming a soldier and a ballet dancer!

SheWrites wrote:

Yeah, how many generals have been relieved during the time frame of the Obama administration.  They all tread lightly on these "political" cases.

Enough that there are not any Combat Generals left to fire.

Joanimaroni wrote:

I have a feeling under Obama.....the administration will state Bergdahl cannot be held accountable for his actions because he was under extreme duress while serving.

Bergdahl had a hard time choosing between becoming a soldier and a ballet dancer!

After the Rose Garden photo op...felt that a deal had been made [for whatever reason] that Bergdahl would escape prosecution or prison time....Remember at the time the cowh was grasping at straws for some kind of positive public relations win and Bergdahl was initially supposed to be returned as some kind of hero pow...well until those pesky facts came out that he was/is a POS coward/deserter....then it became and is save face mode...

It was the beginning of the release of the detainees...which is now flowing like a mountain stream in spring.

You're right, Joani, but that story is not front and center on the news shows.

I agree.

SheWrites wrote:

It was the beginning of the release of the detainees...which is now flowing like a mountain stream in spring.  

You're right, Joani, but that story is not front and center on the news shows.

Had forgot about this being a reason to empty Gitmo....releasing those that want to kill Americans and destroy America...now there's some solid logic from the cowh...

Bergdahl's hometown had to be reminded that a yellow ribbon...heroes welcome would not be seen as a good move due to the investigation into his case....not a hero...a disgraced deserter....

nochain wrote:

The problem is this is a political case now which is why the Army has been dragging its heels for so long. I can almost see it - this lands on some Generals desk and he thinks - keep shuffling it around and make it someone else's problem. I saw many U.A.'s and desertion cases and never saw one drag on this long. Mitigating circumstances notwithstanding. Really it's no different from a military member strolling off base in any country and getting "arrested". They sit in jail but they are still a deserter after 30 days. Case closed.

Yesterday watching the RADM attempting to explain this case was very difficult to watch...You are correct this has been dumped in a General's lap and talk about being between a rock and a hard place...who'd want an assignment to rule on what you know and have been taught in military leadership throughout your career and saving face for an incompetent administration...No pressure there...

Today it was reported that one of the five released terrorists for Bergdal has been in contact with the Taliban....anyone surprised?.....Although the WH spokesperson said the Taliban is not seen as a terrorist organization even though less than two weeks ago the Sec of State called the taliban...a terrorist organization....amatuer hour continues....

No surprise....the trial will not be about Bergdahl. It will be about Obama and protecting his actions.

Joanimaroni wrote:

No surprise....the trial will not be about Bergdahl. It will be about Obama and protecting his actions.

Think most think this was exactly what it turned out to be....a fiasco created by an administration that had/has no creditbility in the world standing...our allies don't trust us and our enemies have no respect for us...This was a publicty stunt that backfired horribly...

For a brief moment I had thoughts of justice.......then reality kicked in.