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PostSubject: Allen West: Race is Obama’s “Get Out of Jail Free” card   Allen West: Race is Obama’s “Get Out of Jail Free” card EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 7:32 am

No need for me to even add an opinion.

"PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla., November 4, 2013 — In the game of Monopoly, the “Get Out of Jail Free” card allows players to avoid the penalty of losing turns if they happen to land “in jail.” It’s become a metaphor for something that gets you out of an unpleasant or difficult situation. And it’s a card our president seems to be playing over and over again in his game of Monopoly with the American people.
The nation is struggling with the notion that President Obama completely deceived us all on his signature policy, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Over the past week we learned that millions of Americans are receiving cancellation notices of their private healthcare plans, something Obama promised over and over again would not happen, “period.” We now know that to be false.

But this is just one of a growing list of disturbing questions surrounding the Obama Administration, if not the Oval Office itself: Operation Fast and Furious, IRS targeting, NSA surveillance, Benghazi, NLRB recess appointments, weak economic recovery, expanding welfare nanny-state, exorbitant debt growth, and the sacking of almost 200 senior military officers. In every case the response from Obama is either that: He didn’t know about it; it is an unimportant or a phony scandal; it’s someone else’s fault — generally the Republicans or the Tea Party.
Aside from these questionable issues, the fact is that Obama’s economic policies have truly failed. We have weak economic recovery, an expanding welfare nanny-state, exorbitant debt growth and almost 1200 days of gasoline prices at or above $3.00. According the trillion-dollar stimulus plan, we were supposed to have unemployment under six percent by now. Yet with all these failures, Obama was reelected quite easily.
Could it be that Obama believes he possesses the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card?
As the first African-American president, Obama was supposed to represent a new era in race relations in our nation. America sought this historic moment as a means to cleanse itself of the horrors of its past, and it has provided him a cover that he, the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have all exploited.

When the Democrats introduced Barack Hussein Obama, a young man from Chicago, to America at the DNC convention in 2004, it was part of a grand strategy. The progressive socialists who have commandeered Democrat party knew that only with a carefully crafted image could they advance their ideology and agenda. America fell for it eagerly, electing the most liberal — that is, the most leftist, socialist — man in the Senate to the White House.
The get-out-of-jail-free card then was Obama’s skin color, and it remains so today. How often is criticism of failed policies met with cries of racism? Last week many commentators struggled not to say that Obama lied to the American people, but even the Washington Post couldn’t hide the fact.
Obama was not reelected by running on his record but by being “likeable,” and by demonizing his opposition and again. Americans, albeit by a slim majority, decided failed policies didn’t matter; abandoning Americans to die in a terrorist attack didn’t matter; deception and lying didn’t matter.
So, why are we surprised that in the first year of his second term we are getting more of the same?

The media and so many others have expended every effort to provide cover for Obama and his faults, policy failures, unconstitutional actions, and lies. The president is fully aware, and his arrogance and disdain for accountability are rooted in his recognition that America lacks the intestinal fortitude to hold him accountable, because of his skin color — his personal political get-out-of-jail-free card.
Sadly, not enough Americans paid heed to Dr. Martin Luther King’s hope that we would be a nation to judge not by the color of one’s skin, but by the content of one’s character. We are now at the risk of seeing our Republic being fundamentally transformed because we wanted to celebrate a historic moment.
What’s next?
Just imagine if we have the historic moment of the first woman president; those not obliging that spectacle will be castigated as misogynists and sexist, with a resurgence of the “War on Women.” The progressive socialists may successfully put in place a potential reign of 24 years. It’s not too much of a stretch to imagine after Obama and Hillary Clinton, or Senator Elizabeth Warren, could come the first Hispanic president. Don’t forget it was Julian Castro as the keynote speaker at the 2012 DNC convention.
The get-out-of-jail-free card being utilized in the game of politics is advancing a governing philosophy completely contrary to that of our Constitutional Republic. This marketing strategy of advertising image over substance, leadership and message is undermining the future of America."


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PostSubject: Re: Allen West: Race is Obama’s “Get Out of Jail Free” card   Allen West: Race is Obama’s “Get Out of Jail Free” card EmptyTue Nov 05, 2013 8:05 am

nochain wrote:
No need for me to even add an opinion.

"PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla., November 4, 2013 — In the game of Monopoly, the “Get Out of Jail Free” card allows players to avoid the penalty of losing turns if they happen to land “in jail.” It’s become a metaphor for something that gets you out of an unpleasant or difficult situation. And it’s a card our president seems to be playing over and over again in his game of Monopoly with the American people.
The nation is struggling with the notion that President Obama completely deceived us all on his signature policy, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Over the past week we learned that millions of Americans are receiving cancellation notices of their private healthcare plans, something Obama promised over and over again would not happen, “period.” We now know that to be false.

But this is just one of a growing list of disturbing questions surrounding the Obama Administration, if not the Oval Office itself: Operation Fast and Furious, IRS targeting, NSA surveillance, Benghazi, NLRB recess appointments, weak economic recovery, expanding welfare nanny-state, exorbitant debt growth, and the sacking of almost 200 senior military officers. In every case the response from Obama is either that: He didn’t know about it; it is an unimportant or a phony scandal; it’s someone else’s fault — generally the Republicans or the Tea Party.
Aside from these questionable issues, the fact is that Obama’s economic policies have truly failed. We have weak economic recovery, an expanding welfare nanny-state, exorbitant debt growth and almost 1200 days of gasoline prices at or above $3.00. According the trillion-dollar stimulus plan, we were supposed to have unemployment under six percent by now. Yet with all these failures, Obama was reelected quite easily.
Could it be that Obama believes he possesses the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card?
As the first African-American president, Obama was supposed to represent a new era in race relations in our nation. America sought this historic moment as a means to cleanse itself of the horrors of its past, and it has provided him a cover that he, the Democratic Party and the mainstream media have all exploited.

When the Democrats introduced Barack Hussein Obama, a young man from Chicago, to America at the DNC convention in 2004, it was part of a grand strategy. The progressive socialists who have commandeered Democrat party knew that only with a carefully crafted image could they advance their ideology and agenda. America fell for it eagerly, electing the most liberal — that is, the most leftist, socialist — man in the Senate to the White House.
The get-out-of-jail-free card then was Obama’s skin color, and it remains so today. How often is criticism of failed policies met with cries of racism? Last week many commentators struggled not to say that Obama lied to the American people, but even the Washington Post couldn’t hide the fact.
Obama was not reelected by running on his record but by being “likeable,” and by demonizing his opposition and again. Americans, albeit by a slim majority, decided failed policies didn’t matter; abandoning Americans to die in a terrorist attack didn’t matter; deception and lying didn’t matter.
So, why are we surprised that in the first year of his second term we are getting more of the same?

The media and so many others have expended every effort to provide cover for Obama and his faults, policy failures, unconstitutional actions, and lies. The president is fully aware, and his arrogance and disdain for accountability are rooted in his recognition that America lacks the intestinal fortitude to hold him accountable, because of his skin color — his personal political get-out-of-jail-free card.
Sadly, not enough Americans paid heed to Dr. Martin Luther King’s hope that we would be a nation to judge not by the color of one’s skin, but by the content of one’s character. We are now at the risk of seeing our Republic being fundamentally transformed because we wanted to celebrate a historic moment.
What’s next?
Just imagine if we have the historic moment of the first woman president; those not obliging that spectacle will be castigated as misogynists and sexist, with a resurgence of the “War on Women.” The progressive socialists may successfully put in place a potential reign of 24 years. It’s not too much of a stretch to imagine after Obama and Hillary Clinton, or Senator Elizabeth Warren, could come the first Hispanic president. Don’t forget it was Julian Castro as the keynote speaker at the 2012 DNC convention.
The get-out-of-jail-free card being utilized in the game of politics is advancing a governing philosophy completely contrary to that of our Constitutional Republic. This marketing strategy of advertising image over substance, leadership and message is undermining the future of America."


Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/allen-west-out-foxhole/2013/nov/4/allen-west-race-obamas-get-out-jail-free-card/#ixzz2jmQ6SwDl

The 'race' issue as stated was from the beginning and from design...any criticism...disagreement...or even to mention his full name could get those catagorized as a 'racist' or 'motivated from race'.....It seems that disagreements/criticism with policies on the merit of the policies alone will be tolerated but only for a short time then someone from somewhere will toss the get of of jail card which deflects focus from the issue to focus on something that wasn't even considered...Are there racists...sure...Are there those that have racist attitudes towards the cowh...yes...but much like the little boy that cried wolf those that are truly racist in nature are also not exposed simply because the light is shined on those that aren't and are used as such for political purposes...so there can never be a true discussion about racism because the definition seem to be fluid and used only when it changes the conversation...Look at how Col West...Condi Rice...Colin Powell (before his conversion to jumping on the bandwagon against republicans)...JC Watts etc., OR any individual that is black and happens to be conservative is talked about and/or portrayed---and yet there's a different standard applied in these instances...So when the conversation of racism comes up and how far we've come or have to go...there should be a reminder that this issue cuts both ways and there are racists/racist rhetoric that come from corners...and one is no better that the other and should not be acceptable for any reason or excuse...Until it can be addressed honestly there will be no constructive conversation and people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will continue to fuel the fire and $$$$$$-profit....
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An A/A who doesn't toe the progressive/socialist line is branded a paid shill. What the progressives fail to acknowledge is that some people can think for themselves......and some of these people don't like what they see happening in this country. It is fast getting to the point where personal accountability is no longer necessary and NOWHERE is this more evident than the "I didn't know" President who fails to take responsibility for anything negative. Allen West sees this clearly but his well-reasoned message will be ignored by those that need to heed the words the most.
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nochain wrote:
An A/A who doesn't toe the progressive/socialist line is branded a paid shill. What the progressives fail to acknowledge is that some people can think for themselves......and some of these people don't like what they see happening in this country. It is fast getting to the point where personal accountability is no longer necessary and NOWHERE is this more evident than the "I didn't know" President who fails to take responsibility for anything negative. Allen West sees this clearly but his well-reasoned message will be ignored by those that need to heed the words the most.
Remember the infamous prayer breakfast attended by the cowh...initially there was more than polite clapping when Dr Ben Carson was introduced...then because Dr Carson had disagreement with the current administration and their policies...there was suddenly little of very polite clapping from the cowh....Then coincidentally(?) the NEXT day...Dr Carson is audited by the IRS!....Nothing was found but if this wasn't an abuse of power....Listen to Dr Carter and it's no wonder why he's seen as a villan by the cowh and other democrats much like Lt Col Allen West....
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I was listening to an interview of a former secret service agent who had been assigned to the Obama's, quit and has become a republican. Interesting in itself.

While he wouldn't discuss specifics due to their code of ethics, he made the observation that other Presidents he had protected always surrounded themselves with experienced people who told them what they DID NOT want to hear. That was what was needed, whereas Obama has surrounded himself with inexperienced people who are nothing more than "yes" , admiring, in awe people, and cronies.

Wish I had caught his name.

With the flagrant lies that are unfolding, I'm at a loss trying to understand why there isn't a move to impeach.
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My son spent a few weeks at the white house in 2010 on his EOD duty and as soon as his time was up, he put in his retirement papers due to total disrespect from the president and his wife...
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[quote="Jake92"]My son spent a few weeks at the white house in 2010 on his EOD duty and as soon as his time was up, he put in his retirement papers due to total disrespect from the president and his wife...  [/quote


That's interesting, Jake. Can't say I envy your Son even meeting them.

This guy said they were polite to him.

Whatever, polite or not doesn't a President make.

The damage this "I didn't know" President is becoming more obvious and more severe every day.

If we haven't already hit the tipping point, we are dam near.
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The EOD teams are there for the president's protection as well as everything on the White House grounds and vicinity.. Not only the poresident, but also Michelle told them "stay out of my way" when they were just doing their jobs.. The FEW that did get respect were the black EOD guys..
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Jake92 wrote:
The EOD teams are there for the president's protection as well as everything on the White House grounds and vicinity..  Not only the poresident, but also Michelle told them "stay out of my way" when they were just doing their jobs..  The FEW that did get respect were the black EOD guys..
Sounds a little like the Clinton(s) White House with the exception that Hillary seemed to hate everyone equally...Is anyone surprised about the current occupants of the White House and any allegations based on race?...This administration and some of it's supporters have been wrapped in the race issue from the beginning and not surprising should be that some that throw race around at the drop of the hat are sometimes the racists themselves...I would hope that what was stated is not true but would not be surprised the account is accurate...
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I was listening to an interview of a former secret service agent who had been assigned to the Obama's, quit and has become a republican.  Interesting in itself.

While he wouldn't discuss specifics due to their code of ethics, he made the observation that other Presidents he had protected always surrounded themselves with experienced people who told them what they DID NOT want to hear.  That was what was needed, whereas Obama has surrounded himself with inexperienced people who are nothing more than "yes" , admiring, in awe people, and cronies.

Wish I had caught his name.

With the flagrant lies that are unfolding, I'm at a loss trying to understand why there isn't a move to impeach.
The reason there is no move to impeach is that the Republican party knows it would be complete suicide, if they haven't killed themselves off already by allowing the tea partiers to control their last election cycles. The American people are most certainly not calling for impeachment of the POTUS. The American people just reelected the POTUS one year ago, and the fact that he was elected by a majority of voters still hasn't settled into your brains yet. You think he was elected because he was "likable," in spite of his record? I'll agree that he was elected in spite of his record, but I won't accept some Republican wingnut telling me why people like me voted for him. They have no clue. The real reason he was elected was the policies of your party and your candidate. This nation is not as full of  tea party, ultra conservative, federal government hating , gun toting Bible thumpers as you think it is. It's a centrist country that can tolerate Obama but could not even seriously consider the possibility of one of your ranks in control of our government at any time in the future.
Obama has not surrounded himself with "yes" men- Joe Biden isn't a "yes" man. He disagreed with Obama on the raid that killed Bin Laden, if you remember correctly.  Obama has told lies to the American people about what he planned to do if elected, but those lies were to progressives who thought he'd be far more progressive than he has in his decisions. He's catered far more to your side of the aisle than he has to us- even the health care bill was patterned after an early '90's program pushed by Republicans and after the program instituted by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. As far as lying about people losing their health insurance, he never had the authority to force insurance companies to keep policies in force, so anyone who thought he could make such an absolute promise was a fool to start with. I think he assumed, as most of you Republicans do, that big business had at least a fiscal interest in keeping their policyholders, so they would not cancel policies. Big business doesn't give a damn about human beings, just the final money line, and like a good DINO, he thought like you people did that wealthy companies would care about customers. That's just stupidity, not so much lying.
As for him being protected by being black, that's a huge crock of turds. You're claiming he hasn't been criticized, while you're doing so right now, aren't you? Nobody has allowed him to get away with anything just because he's black. I don't see fox news doing it and neither has anyone in the Republican party. That article is just false. He has done absolutely nothing to be impeached about.
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stormwatch89 wrote:
I was listening to an interview of a former secret service agent who had been assigned to the Obama's, quit and has become a republican.  Interesting in itself.

While he wouldn't discuss specifics due to their code of ethics, he made the observation that other Presidents he had protected always surrounded themselves with experienced people who told them what they DID NOT want to hear.  That was what was needed, whereas Obama has surrounded himself with inexperienced people who are nothing more than "yes" , admiring, in awe people, and cronies.

Wish I had caught his name.

With the flagrant lies that are unfolding, I'm at a loss trying to understand why there isn't a move to impeach.
The reason there is no move to impeach is that the Republican party knows it would be complete suicide, if they haven't killed themselves off already by allowing the tea partiers to control their last election cycles. The American people are most certainly not calling for impeachment of the POTUS. The American people just reelected the POTUS one year ago, and the fact that he was elected by a majority of voters still hasn't settled into your brains yet. You think he was elected because he was "likable," in spite of his record? I'll agree that he was elected in spite of his record, but I won't accept some Republican wingnut telling me why people like me voted for him. They have no clue. The real reason he was elected was the policies of your party and your candidate. This nation is not as full of  tea party, ultra conservative, federal government hating , gun toting Bible thumpers as you think it is. It's a centrist country that can tolerate Obama but could not even seriously consider the possibility of one of your ranks in control of our government at any time in the future.
Obama has not surrounded himself with "yes" men- Joe Biden isn't a "yes" man. He disagreed with Obama on the raid that killed Bin Laden, if you remember correctly.  Obama has told lies to the American people about what he planned to do if elected, but those lies were to progressives who thought he'd be far more progressive than he has in his decisions. He's catered far more to your side of the aisle than he has to us- even the health care bill was patterned after an early '90's program pushed by Republicans and after the program instituted by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. As far as lying about people losing their health insurance, he never had the authority to force insurance companies to keep policies in force, so anyone who thought he could make such an absolute promise was a fool to start with. I think he assumed, as most of you Republicans do, that big business had at least a fiscal interest in keeping their policyholders, so they would not cancel policies. Big business doesn't give a damn about human beings, just the final money line, and like a good DINO, he thought like you people did that wealthy companies would care about customers. That's just stupidity, not so much lying.
As for him being protected by being black, that's a huge crock of turds. You're claiming he hasn't been criticized, while you're doing so right now, aren't you? Nobody has allowed him to get away with anything just because he's black. I don't see fox news doing it and neither has anyone in the Republican party. That article is just false. He has done absolutely nothing to be impeached about.
Believe the 'get out of jail card' has been around and used since the beginning of this administration...There has and will be criticism but when the level got to a certain level the card would be played and it changed the focus of the situation and what was really being debated...There have been MANY times especially on MSNBC and some other networks that comments had been made about.... disagreement is 'racially motivated'...'some can't accept because there's a black man in the white house'...Now when those allegations are thrown is there anyone that doesn't believe it changes the entire conversation?...Suddenly if you disagree you are lumped in with racists...radicals etc., so it was used
as a deflection...The media (for the most part) DID NOT criticize and those outlets that did...look how they were portrayed....The cowh was given a free ride from his running for office to being elected and re-elected but now it's open
season because of his policies...his (mis)management...his dishonesty...and his arrogance...and suddenly the 'get out of jail card' hasn't been thrown...why?...It would be difficult to lump all those critical now as being 'racists' or 'motivated by
race'...It's gotten so bad that Sen Feinstein is supporting legislation to make sure people can keep their plans and their doctors if they chose to do so. Like the cowh and other members of his administration PROMISED.....this may sound commendable but when 1 Million in her state lost coverage...suddenly she's concerned?....But you'd never hear anyone question Sen Feinstein like others have been...It's a little difficult for all the democrats that supported this to have any credibility whatsoever...and the 'get out of jail card' is not an option this time....
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stormwatch89 wrote:
I was listening to an interview of a former secret service agent who had been assigned to the Obama's, quit and has become a republican.  Interesting in itself.

While he wouldn't discuss specifics due to their code of ethics, he made the observation that other Presidents he had protected always surrounded themselves with experienced people who told them what they DID NOT want to hear.  That was what was needed, whereas Obama has surrounded himself with inexperienced people who are nothing more than "yes" , admiring, in awe people, and cronies.

Wish I had caught his name.

With the flagrant lies that are unfolding, I'm at a loss trying to understand why there isn't a move to impeach.
That article is just false. He has done absolutely nothing to be impeached about.
Certainly abject incompetence, arrogance, lying, and ABSOLUTE refusal to accept responsibility for any negative outcome aren't reasons for impeachment.......if the MSM had highlighted these "qualities" of BHO during his first failed term he never would have been reelected.

BTW, what facts in the article are "false"?
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nochain wrote:
Otter wrote:
stormwatch89 wrote:
I was listening to an interview of a former secret service agent who had been assigned to the Obama's, quit and has become a republican.  Interesting in itself.

While he wouldn't discuss specifics due to their code of ethics, he made the observation that other Presidents he had protected always surrounded themselves with experienced people who told them what they DID NOT want to hear.  That was what was needed, whereas Obama has surrounded himself with inexperienced people who are nothing more than "yes" , admiring, in awe people, and cronies.

Wish I had caught his name.

With the flagrant lies that are unfolding, I'm at a loss trying to understand why there isn't a move to impeach.
That article is just false. He has done absolutely nothing to be impeached about.
Certainly abject incompetence, arrogance, lying, and ABSOLUTE refusal to accept responsibility for any negative outcome aren't reasons for impeachment.......if the MSM had highlighted these "qualities" of BHO during his first failed term he never would have been reelected.

BTW, what facts in the article are "false"?
You mean the cowh fooled how many people........TWICE?????....
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mediawatcher wrote:
Otter wrote:
stormwatch89 wrote:
I was listening to an interview of a former secret service agent who had been assigned to the Obama's, quit and has become a republican.  Interesting in itself.

While he wouldn't discuss specifics due to their code of ethics, he made the observation that other Presidents he had protected always surrounded themselves with experienced people who told them what they DID NOT want to hear.  That was what was needed, whereas Obama has surrounded himself with inexperienced people who are nothing more than "yes" , admiring, in awe people, and cronies.

Wish I had caught his name.

With the flagrant lies that are unfolding, I'm at a loss trying to understand why there isn't a move to impeach.
The reason there is no move to impeach is that the Republican party knows it would be complete suicide, if they haven't killed themselves off already by allowing the tea partiers to control their last election cycles. The American people are most certainly not calling for impeachment of the POTUS. The American people just reelected the POTUS one year ago, and the fact that he was elected by a majority of voters still hasn't settled into your brains yet. You think he was elected because he was "likable," in spite of his record? I'll agree that he was elected in spite of his record, but I won't accept some Republican wingnut telling me why people like me voted for him. They have no clue. The real reason he was elected was the policies of your party and your candidate. This nation is not as full of  tea party, ultra conservative, federal government hating , gun toting Bible thumpers as you think it is. It's a centrist country that can tolerate Obama but could not even seriously consider the possibility of one of your ranks in control of our government at any time in the future.
Obama has not surrounded himself with "yes" men- Joe Biden isn't a "yes" man. He disagreed with Obama on the raid that killed Bin Laden, if you remember correctly.  Obama has told lies to the American people about what he planned to do if elected, but those lies were to progressives who thought he'd be far more progressive than he has in his decisions. He's catered far more to your side of the aisle than he has to us- even the health care bill was patterned after an early '90's program pushed by Republicans and after the program instituted by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. As far as lying about people losing their health insurance, he never had the authority to force insurance companies to keep policies in force, so anyone who thought he could make such an absolute promise was a fool to start with. I think he assumed, as most of you Republicans do, that big business had at least a fiscal interest in keeping their policyholders, so they would not cancel policies. Big business doesn't give a damn about human beings, just the final money line, and like a good DINO, he thought like you people did that wealthy companies would care about customers. That's just stupidity, not so much lying.
As for him being protected by being black, that's a huge crock of turds. You're claiming he hasn't been criticized, while you're doing so right now, aren't you? Nobody has allowed him to get away with anything just because he's black. I don't see fox news doing it and neither has anyone in the Republican party. That article is just false. He has done absolutely nothing to be impeached about.
     Believe the 'get out of jail card' has been around and used since the beginning of this administration...There has and will be criticism but when the level got to a certain level the card would be played and it changed the focus of the situation and what was really being debated...There have been MANY times especially on MSNBC and some other networks that comments had been made about.... disagreement is 'racially motivated'...'some can't accept because there's a black man in the white house'...Now when those allegations are thrown is there anyone that doesn't believe it changes the entire conversation?...Suddenly if you disagree you are lumped in with racists...radicals etc.,  so it was used
as a deflection...The media (for the most part) DID NOT criticize and those outlets that did...look how they were portrayed....The cowh was given a free ride from his running for office to being elected and re-elected but now it's open
season because of his policies...his (mis)management...his dishonesty...and his arrogance...and suddenly the 'get out of jail card' hasn't been thrown...why?...It would be difficult to lump all those critical now as being 'racists' or 'motivated by
race'...It's gotten so bad that Sen Feinstein is supporting legislation to make sure people can keep their plans and their doctors if they chose to do so. Like the cowh and other members of his administration PROMISED.....this may sound commendable but when 1 Million in her state lost coverage...suddenly she's concerned?....But you'd never hear anyone question Sen Feinstein like others have been...It's a little difficult for all the democrats that supported this to have any credibility whatsoever...and the 'get out of jail card' is not an option this time....
First of all,the POTUS doesn't need a "get out of jail " card because he hasn't done anything illegal, and the allegation that he has is unjustified. He is the POTUS and he was elected by the American people. They elected him because  they didn't like the POS positions that your side of the aisle offers. They did not elect him because he is black. I couldn't care less what color he is. They elected him to be president, and he should be allowed to make certain decisions based on that one simple fact. We the people gave him the power. He's not a Republican right winger who wants to cut social programs and attack Iran. That's why I voted for him.  You are unwilling and unable to accept that, just like your side never truly accepted Bill Clinton as your president either. If it's not a Republican, in your mind,it doesn't belong in the White House.
As for the charges of Racism, I haven't heard those in relation to defending his policies on MSNBC, and I actually watch that channel- I'm betting you don't.
I am betting you get a lot of e-mails from like minded friends making unsupported claims that they are persecuted by being called racist if they don't like the POTUS, just like so called Christians claim they're persecuted because everyone on the left wants to chase the word Christ out of the holiday.
My side of the spectrum isn't defending Obama because he's black and we don't hate Christmas.

Your paranoia is raging and you need to get some help for it.

If you don't hate his blackness, don't worry about it. Your arguments aren't directed towards his color, and left  wingers like myself know that. But  there are Americans who do hate his blackness, and you might as well come to accept that. And there are plenty of clues that they give off to know if it's racist hate or just disagreement with policy decisions.
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I was listening to an interview of a former secret service agent who had been assigned to the Obama's, quit and has become a republican.  Interesting in itself.

While he wouldn't discuss specifics due to their code of ethics, he made the observation that other Presidents he had protected always surrounded themselves with experienced people who told them what they DID NOT want to hear.  That was what was needed, whereas Obama has surrounded himself with inexperienced people who are nothing more than "yes" , admiring, in awe people, and cronies.

Wish I had caught his name.

With the flagrant lies that are unfolding, I'm at a loss trying to understand why there isn't a move to impeach.
The reason there is no move to impeach is that the Republican party knows it would be complete suicide, if they haven't killed themselves off already by allowing the tea partiers to control their last election cycles. The American people are most certainly not calling for impeachment of the POTUS. The American people just reelected the POTUS one year ago, and the fact that he was elected by a majority of voters still hasn't settled into your brains yet. You think he was elected because he was "likable," in spite of his record? I'll agree that he was elected in spite of his record, but I won't accept some Republican wingnut telling me why people like me voted for him. They have no clue. The real reason he was elected was the policies of your party and your candidate. This nation is not as full of  tea party, ultra conservative, federal government hating , gun toting Bible thumpers as you think it is. It's a centrist country that can tolerate Obama but could not even seriously consider the possibility of one of your ranks in control of our government at any time in the future.
Obama has not surrounded himself with "yes" men- Joe Biden isn't a "yes" man. He disagreed with Obama on the raid that killed Bin Laden, if you remember correctly.  Obama has told lies to the American people about what he planned to do if elected, but those lies were to progressives who thought he'd be far more progressive than he has in his decisions. He's catered far more to your side of the aisle than he has to us- even the health care bill was patterned after an early '90's program pushed by Republicans and after the program instituted by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. As far as lying about people losing their health insurance, he never had the authority to force insurance companies to keep policies in force, so anyone who thought he could make such an absolute promise was a fool to start with. I think he assumed, as most of you Republicans do, that big business had at least a fiscal interest in keeping their policyholders, so they would not cancel policies. Big business doesn't give a damn about human beings, just the final money line, and like a good DINO, he thought like you people did that wealthy companies would care about customers. That's just stupidity, not so much lying.
As for him being protected by being black, that's a huge crock of turds. You're claiming he hasn't been criticized, while you're doing so right now, aren't you? Nobody has allowed him to get away with anything just because he's black. I don't see fox news doing it and neither has anyone in the Republican party. That article is just false. He has done absolutely nothing to be impeached about.
     Believe the 'get out of jail card' has been around and used since the beginning of this administration...There has and will be criticism but when the level got to a certain level the card would be played and it changed the focus of the situation and what was really being debated...There have been MANY times especially on MSNBC and some other networks that comments had been made about.... disagreement is 'racially motivated'...'some can't accept because there's a black man in the white house'...Now when those allegations are thrown is there anyone that doesn't believe it changes the entire conversation?...Suddenly if you disagree you are lumped in with racists...radicals etc.,  so it was used
as a deflection...The media (for the most part) DID NOT criticize and those outlets that did...look how they were portrayed....The cowh was given a free ride from his running for office to being elected and re-elected but now it's open
season because of his policies...his (mis)management...his dishonesty...and his arrogance...and suddenly the 'get out of jail card' hasn't been thrown...why?...It would be difficult to lump all those critical now as being 'racists' or 'motivated by
race'...It's gotten so bad that Sen Feinstein is supporting legislation to make sure people can keep their plans and their doctors if they chose to do so. Like the cowh and other members of his administration PROMISED.....this may sound commendable but when 1 Million in her state lost coverage...suddenly she's concerned?....But you'd never hear anyone question Sen Feinstein like others have been...It's a little difficult for all the democrats that supported this to have any credibility whatsoever...and the 'get out of jail card' is not an option this time....
First of all,the POTUS doesn't need a "get out of jail " card because he hasn't done anything illegal, and the allegation that he has is unjustified. He is the POTUS and he was elected by the American people. They elected him because  they didn't like the POS positions that your side of the aisle offers. They did not elect him because he is black. I couldn't care less what color he is.  They elected him to be president, and he should be allowed to make certain decisions based on that one simple fact. We the people gave him the power. He's not a Republican right winger who wants to cut social programs and attack Iran. That's why I voted for him.  You are unwilling and unable to accept that, just like your side never truly accepted Bill Clinton as your president either. If it's not a Republican, in your mind,it doesn't belong in the White House.
As for the charges of Racism, I haven't heard those in relation to defending his policies on MSNBC, and I actually watch that channel- I'm betting you don't.
I am betting you get a lot of e-mails from like minded friends making unsupported claims that they are persecuted by being called racist if they don't like the POTUS, just like so called Christians claim they're persecuted because everyone on the left wants to chase the word Christ out of the holiday.
My side of the spectrum isn't defending Obama because he's black and we don't hate Christmas.

Your paranoia is raging and you need to get some help for it.

If you don't hate his blackness, don't worry about it. Your arguments aren't directed towards his color, and left  wingers like myself know that. But  there are Americans who do hate his blackness, and you might as well come to accept that. And there are plenty of clues that they give off to know if it's racist hate or just disagreement with policy decisions.
Speaking of PARANOIA!....But I'd feel that way too if I'd voted for the cowh....TWICE!!!!!!!!!
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[/quote]First of all,the POTUS doesn't need a "get out of jail " card because he hasn't done anything illegal,

. He's not a Republican right winger who wants to cut social programs and attack Iran. That's why I voted for him.  You are unwilling and unable to accept that, just like your side never truly accepted Bill Clinton as your president either. If it's not a Republican, in your mind,it doesn't belong in the White House.

As for the charges of Racism, I haven't heard those in relation to defending his policies on MSNBC, and I actually watch that channel- I'm betting you don't.

But  there are Americans who do hate his blackness, and you might as well come to accept that. And there are plenty of clues that they give off to know if it's racist hate or just disagreement with policy decisions.[/quote]
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A couple of points - I wouldn't take the "get out of jail card" reference quite so literally, think of it more as a free pass for incompetence - although it can be argued BHO has bent the law (take the bombing of Libya for example) and those facts will eventually become public knowledge but every President gets their hands dirty in one form or another.

And for the record, BHO has stated he is willing attack Iran - there goes that argument.

“My suspicion is that the Iranians recognize they shouldn’t draw a lesson that we haven’t struck [Syria] to think we won’t strike Iran.”
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/09/16/324225/obama-us-prepared-to-attack-iran/

Also, BHO considers some conservative opponents racist - some are no doubt racist but the ones keeping "racism" most alive are radicals like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and some who I don't know from the far right. They see a racist angle behind every stop sign.

“Obama, in his most candid moments, acknowledged that race was still a problem. In May 2010, he told guests at a private White House dinner that race was probably a key component in the rising opposition to his presidency from conservatives”
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/03/02/obama-says-race-a-key-component-in-tea-party-protests?page=

Racism exists against white folk too - blacks and other minorities don't have a monopoly on racist problems. On your very own MSNBC:

On Thursday’s edition of MSNBC’s The Cycle the group discussed Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney‘s assertion that President Obama should “take [his] campaign of division and anger and hate back to Chicago.” Co-host Touré saw what he believes to be explicit racial connotations beneath what Romney was saying, calling it the “niggerization” of the campaign.

“That really bothered me,” he said. “You notice he said anger twice. He’s really trying to use racial coding and access some really deep stereotypes about the angry black man. This is part of the playbook against Obama, the ‘otherization,’ he’s not like us.”

“I know it’s a heavy thing, I don’t say it lightly, but this is ‘niggerization,’” Touré said to the apparent shock of his co-panelists. “You are not one of us, you are like the scary black man who we’ve been trained to fear.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-toure-to-panel-romney-engaging-in-the-niggerization-of-obama/
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Please refrain from posting the "N" word or it's variations...
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Not my use - it was in the article. But so be it - I can be more PC and not quote pertinent articles.
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Thanks, it is not a huge deal. I appreciate your posts. I just would prefer we don't get the reputation of being a racist forum.

I have refrained from posting hilarious stuff because someone else used offensive language in a graphic.

(By the way, I told that to Bob (NotBob, BobW, etc.) and he was astounded that I would censor myself.)
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Please refrain from posting the "N" word or it's variations...
     Don't think the use was from a personal level...it was a quote from someone that calls themself a journalist--those were his words and he should be exposed for using that terminology to attack...Earlier another poster challanged that MSNBC did not make racial comments and that he would know because he watches that network (wondered who that person was)....(go to youtube and look up under msnbc racial remarks--many examples listed)... and I had prepared several instances from both MSNBC employees (on air personalities) and what they allowed to let their guests get away with in discussions but decided that it would cause more problems than it was worth and guess I was correct...the backlash should be against those that use the word not against those that expose the idiots....and there is part of the problem when those that point out the references and they are made to feel that they've done something wrong only allows the idiots to continue...PC cuts both ways!...Apologies have already been made for the remark mentioned above but will the same standards that would follow to almost anyone else happen here?
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I am an equal opportunity offender. Rolling Eyes 

The "N" word is offensive to many and doesn't have to be used here... whether it is your word or quoted speech or text.

If the use of the word must be represented, be creative, such as:  N*****, "N" word.  It shows that the N word was used, but recognizes that it is offensive and was changed for propriety.

Even so, if a creative use were used in a personal attack here (such as a poster directly calling another poster an "effing Ni***") I would step in and do my job as moderator.

I may miss a post or two and didn't catch anything improper about a Fox News article.  I would hope that, if a link is inserted here where the F bomb or N word or explicit nudity was present in linked content, that the poster insert a warning of offensive language or nudity for the referenced link.

I don't mind PMs that point me toward anything offensive or possibly offensive on the forum.  

We don't want to stifle expression... after all, this IS a forum... we just don't want to offend people by using obviously offensive words like the N-word, the F-word, and the C-word.  We DO allow shit and bitch as long as they aren't part of a personal attack.  To avoid an all-out Wild West situation, a line must be drawn somewhere.
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I believe MOST of us are adults and can express ourselves without offending others.. I've always heard that cussing is a immature person's way of expressing anger...
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I feel the same way Eric.. It's still fun being a kid sometimes, but it doesn't mean I have to be immature.
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Here's the thing. It was an easy decision to make over a man who showed the lack of wisdom to be president by nominating Sarah Palin as his VP,    or over a man who believes that nearly 50  percent of Americans were "takers" because they weren't wealthy.

Really, what can your side expect?
You need to do better in selecting your candidates if you expect anyone to consider voting for them.

And the expression "get out of jail free" card when used on a Black POTUS can easily be considered racist in itself, considering the disparity in percentages of white to black prisoners to the general population.   And no, it doesn't matter that Alan West is black. All that means is he should know better than to use that terminology.

He's pandering to folks like you that think a black man can't possibly be using racist speech towards another black man.
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