Wow! Just found this,,,,,thoughts?

"The common denominator in all government activity is the use of force: Government either forces you to do things, forces you not to do things, or forces you to pay for things." ~ Doug Newman



(word automatically deleted by Forum) the Government
Column by Mike Wasdin, posted on November 19, 2004


Throughout history there have been many great quotes by many great people, but one of my favorites has to be the one by Abbie Hoffman. When asked why he used the F-word so much, his response was, 'If I could not say (word automatically deleted by Forum), how would I be able to say (word automatically deleted by Forum) the government?' No truer words were ever spoken!

There was a time in this country when people had a great distrust in government; dissent was the rule, not the exception. Most people are unaware that many of the Founding Fathers had a great distrust of government. They knew that left unchecked, the government would turn into a giant leviathan that would take rights away, not protect them.

I remember when I was in my high school American History class and we were looking at some of the quotes of our past. There was never any mention of quotes about rebellion, unless it had to do with rebellion against King George. Just like most people, I had no idea that the very people who were responsible for our freedom and liberty also warned us of vigilance in keeping it.

The Founding Fathers knew this all too well. One only needs to look at some of their quotes to see this.

'Government is not reason, it is not eloquence'it is force.' ' George Washington

'No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.' ' Thomas Jefferson

'The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants'God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such rebellion; what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!' ' Thomas Jefferson

'Under the laws of nature, all men are born free, every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the Liberty of moving and using it at his own will. This is what is called personal Liberty, and is given him by the Author of nature, because necessary for his own sustenance.' ' Thomas Jefferson

'I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.' ' Thomas Jefferson

'The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.' ' Thomas Jefferson

'It is weakness rather than wickedness which renders men unfit to be trusted with unlimited power.' ' John Adams

'They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety.' ' Benjamin Franklin

'Make yourself a sheep and the wolves will eat you.' ' Benjamin Franklin

'If ye love wealth greater than Liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.' ' Samuel Adams

This is but a small part of what just a very few of the Founding Fathers had to say about government. Only a fool would deny that they had an inherent distrust for government. There have been many other people who have warned us against the evils of government. Some of them were even modern day patriots.

'The right to revolt has sources deep in our history.' ' Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas

'Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.' ' L. Neil Smith

'Give government the weapons to fight your enemy and it will use them against you.' ' Harry Browne

'Patrick Henry did NOT say, ' Give me safety or give me death' ''John Stossel ABC 20/20

'Civilization does not have to perish. The brutes are winning only by default.' ' Ayn Rand

'A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.' ' Edward R. Morrow

'But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of Liberty, and that you must pay that price if you wish to secure the blessing. It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as well as in the Federal Government.' ' Andrew Jackson

Even some of the statists and traitors of their times had a higher regard for freedom than the average sheep walking around today. (I mention these traitors and statists only for comparison to the traitors and statists of today.)

'A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!' ' Alexander Hamilton

'It has been observed that pure Democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this.' ' Alexander Hamilton

'We would rather die on our feet, than live on our knees.''Franklin Delano Roosevelt

'No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent.' ' Abraham Lincoln

I wish I had more to offer from Hamilton, Roosevelt and Lincoln, but statists are not known for their freedom quotes.

My views are those of the people who are quoted above, most of whom were considered patriots and heroes. So why is it that I am called a Communist, a Nazi or un-American? The only reason that I have been able to ascertain is that people confuse love of country with love of government. There is no doubt that the sheep of today are nothing more than mindless zombies, accepting anything their masters tell them. This can be largely credited to the public fool system that we have entrusted to teach our kids.

It must become fashionable to question authority again for freedom and liberty to prevail. As long as we continue to lick the hand of our master, tyranny will prosper.

I would like to end by expressing my love for the government in the words of the late Abbie Hoffman . . . . (word automatically deleted by Forum) THE GOVERNMENT!


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Sorry, Stormy, but I set the forum to not allow the "F" word or the "C" word that were sometimes prevalent at the other forum. Variants will work, however.

I agree with the premise of the post, however. Our country has evolved into something not envisioned by our founders. Sometimes I wonder if Teo's views aren't too far off the mark... Conspiracies, thuggery, Orwellian behavior.

I really like your post, Storm.

People so easily forget that our country was founded by revolution, by refusing to accept the status quo.

Fantastic post, Stormy! One of my favorite quotes is the one referenced in the article you posted and which is so often erroneously attributed to Patrick Henry:

"I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" --Patrick Henry, speech to the Virginia Convention, 23 March 1775 (attributed)

There are several different stories / theories regarding who in fact said or wrote those words, but above is how I have it quoted on my FB profile and other places, as being attributed to him, since it is unclear who exactly said or wrote those amazing words of bravery and wisdom. Here's a good link on what really likely happened and did not: http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2011/03/give-me-liberty-or-give-me-death-famous.html



And with that... "F* the Government!"

Sorry, Eric..........I attended the Evelyn Woods speed reading course back in the day and oftentimes overlook much.

Agreed, I don't like the F or C word either!

Apologies.

I still like this one:

'Make yourself a sheep and the wolves will eat you.' ' Benjamin Franklin

Baaaaaaaaa!

Not that it is on-topic but I like the Groucho Marx quote:

“I've had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it.”

sorry!

PBulldog2 wrote:

I really like your post, Storm.

People so easily forget that our country was founded by revolution, by refusing to accept the status quo.

Agreed.

stormwatch89 wrote:

sorry!

I hope you didn't think my Groucho quote referred to anything you said, Stormy. It wasn't.

I am a big fan of Groucho quotes:

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

Or,

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

Or,

Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

One last one... For now.

Alimony is like buying hay for a dead horse.

Just checking, Eric (word automatically deleted by Forum) a duck!