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PostSubject: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Mon May 02, 2016 11:35 am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/05/01/he-started-crying-like-a-little-baby-11-year-old-brags-about-shooting-suspected-home-invader/


Being a so called liberal I should be upset about this. After all, the kid had access to a gun in his home and shot a man while the guy was running away.
But I'm not. This is the kind of situation (a home invasion) that I think should be given the death penalty anyway. If a burglar goes into a home that is occupied he is a deadly threat to anyone inside. He's saying right there that he doesn't care about the lives of anybody that is inside.

I am a little afraid that the kid's actions may not meet the letter of the law though. I hope he doesn't get into trouble because the guy was running away.

I think he has a right to be proud of what he did.
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Mon May 02, 2016 3:32 pm

I feel the same way. Except that I don't think there should rules once that invasion is initiated.
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Mon May 02, 2016 5:04 pm

Since the other guy had a gun and threatened the boy with it, I suspect the boy will not be charged.

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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Mon May 02, 2016 9:01 pm

If he shot the guy through the hamper I would imagine he was facing him, and if so I'm sure a clever lawyer could make a case that the guy was no longer retreating.
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Tue May 03, 2016 5:01 am

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I feel the same way. Except that I don't think there should rules once that invasion is initiated.

    Correct.  Once there is a threat of being in fear for  your life add to this that the threat was imminent...the kid certainly had a right to protect himself in any manner that he could...too bad the pos lived....Nice to know that some liberals can see this as self defense and yet still want to take the same right from other citizens....good thing this wasn't a liberal household or the results would have been tragic for that family....
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Wed May 04, 2016 4:10 pm

I don't want to take the right from anyone who is defending his life or his home. I'm not against guns in the home and I have one myself. I think you'd be surprised to know how many of us "liberals" have guns in our houses. I don't have any assault weapons and I haven't figured out yet why anyone has to have one to defend himself against a deer.

I'd probably be too scared to chase the guy once he'd gotten out into the yard though. The kid showed a lot of courage doing that.
Like I said I just hope he won't get into any trouble. Being a minor will probably be important if anyone decides to charge him with anything.
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Thu May 05, 2016 6:10 am

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I don't want to take the right from anyone who is defending his life or his home. I'm not against guns in the home and I have one myself. I think you'd be surprised to know how many of us "liberals" have guns in our houses. I don't have any assault weapons and I haven't figured out yet why anyone has to have one to defend himself against a deer.

I'd probably be too scared to chase the guy once he'd gotten out into the yard though. The kid showed a lot of courage doing that.
Like I said I just hope he won't get into any trouble. Being a minor will probably be important if anyone decides to charge him with anything.

Thank-you....that's the liberal way.....Tell others what to do or not do... but don't apply the same to themselves..Sick of hearing the hypocites whine that guns are the problem but I have mine and that's somehow different....Hope more hold true to their promises to move to Canada....although wouldn't wish that bunch of trash on any country....
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Fri May 06, 2016 11:42 am

That was kinda vicious, especially since Eddard's innocuous post was not telling anybody what to do or not to do.

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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Sat May 07, 2016 10:16 am

[quote="Eric"]That was kinda vicious, especially since Eddard's innocuous post was not telling anybody what to do or not to do.[/quote

Pointing out liberal philosophy is vicious?....Tell others what to do---was not personal it was what liberals do and have done in regard to gun/gun control issues...attack firearms, firearms owners and then have firearms or employ armed individuals to protect themselves, their families and their property....Now where in remarks was that personal---but as I mentioned to 'nochain' you took longer than I thought you would to make such unfounded remarks...There was a book---Do as I say and Not as I do....that was about this same kind of hypocrisy too---when someone here points out republican hypocrisy is that vicious?....Seldom see quick defense when that happens....it's a discussion NOT a personal attack and certainly not vicious...Further, didn't think that it had to continually be explained that when a term like liberal is used I don't mean it as all liberal because there are exceptions in every case...
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Sun May 08, 2016 4:14 pm

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I don't want to take the right from anyone who is defending his life or his home. I'm not against guns in the home and I have one myself. I think you'd be surprised to know how many of us "liberals" have guns in our houses. I don't have any assault weapons and I haven't figured out yet why anyone has to have one to defend himself against a deer.

I'd probably be too scared to chase the guy once he'd gotten out into the yard though. The kid showed a lot of courage doing that.
Like I said I just hope he won't get into any trouble. Being a minor will probably be important if anyone decides to charge him with anything.

   Thank-you....that's the liberal way.....Tell others what to do or not do... but don't apply the same to themselves..Sick of hearing the hypocites whine that guns are the problem but I have mine and that's somehow different....Hope more hold true to their promises to move to Canada....although wouldn't wish that bunch of trash on any country....

MW, since you don't seem to understand why my post said yours was vicious, I will break it down for you. Since you quoted Eddard, I can assume you were replying to his post. Yes, he is the most liberal poster here, but there is room for his opinion as well.

You state "Tell others what to do or not to do". Where did he tell anybody what to do or not to do? He stated what he would do, but wasn't telling anybody what to do.

You state that you are sick of hearing the hypocites (sic) whine that guns are the problem. Eddard didn't say that guns were the problem and even implied that he agreed to the keeping of guns in the home. And he didn't whine about it, either. So, how can you be sick of what he says when he didn't say what you were alluding to?

Perhaps there is more here than what I see, such as content in other posts, but since you quoted his post, then replied, I am assuming that your comments were related to his post. The printed word isn't interpreted correctly sometimes, and if I inferred your reply wrongly, I apologize... but this is how I read it.

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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Mon May 09, 2016 9:03 am

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mediawatcher wrote:
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I don't want to take the right from anyone who is defending his life or his home. I'm not against guns in the home and I have one myself. I think you'd be surprised to know how many of us "liberals" have guns in our houses. I don't have any assault weapons and I haven't figured out yet why anyone has to have one to defend himself against a deer.

I'd probably be too scared to chase the guy once he'd gotten out into the yard though. The kid showed a lot of courage doing that.
Like I said I just hope he won't get into any trouble. Being a minor will probably be important if anyone decides to charge him with anything.

   Thank-you....that's the liberal way.....Tell others what to do or not do... but don't apply the same to themselves..Sick of hearing the hypocites whine that guns are the problem but I have mine and that's somehow different....Hope more hold true to their promises to move to Canada....although wouldn't wish that bunch of trash on any country....

MW, since you don't seem to understand why my post said yours was vicious, I will break it down for you.  Since you quoted Eddard, I can assume you were replying to his post.  Yes, he is the most liberal poster here, but there is room for his opinion as well.

You state "Tell others what to do or not to do".  Where did he tell anybody what to do or not to do?  He stated what he would do, but wasn't telling anybody what to do.

You state that you are sick of hearing the hypocites (sic) whine that guns are the problem.  Eddard didn't say that guns were the problem and even implied that he agreed to the keeping of guns in the home.  And he didn't whine about it, either.  So, how can you be sick of what he says when he didn't say what you were alluding to?

Perhaps there is more here than what I see, such as content in other posts, but since you quoted his post, then replied, I am assuming that your comments were related to his post.  The printed word isn't interpreted correctly sometimes, and if I inferred your reply wrongly, I apologize... but this is how I read it.

      For a definition of condescending look no further than the above post.....

      No...I don't need it broken down and I don't need my comments explained thank-you.....Funny that the individual that was supposed to have been 'viciously' replied to has not stated an objection...if so I would have responded appropriately and answered that it was not a personal attack only general comments about guns/gun control issue...This certainly wouldn't be the first time in which a discussion about a subject has made a turn and lead into another discussion....The poster opened their comments with stating they believe in protecting themselves and their families so it would make absolutely not sense to attack because we agree....the difference that was pointed out was that there are liberals [not all] that are hypocrites on this issue...again this would not be the poster in question because can't recall reading a post where they've advocated the out of touch gun control rhetoric of many on the left....Don't believe any of the rules of the forum were broken so don't understand the need for such a defense in which there was never an attack....Simply interpreting something personally doesn't make it factual....even if it is how you read it....
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Mon May 09, 2016 11:27 am

One thing that seems forgotten is this is an informal forum for discussing things. If someone gets hypersensitive, or another misinterprets a post, or another isn't crystal clear about what their post means - guess what? It's just an informal forum, certainly not anywhere near as disgusting as another local forum where some act like they want rip your eyeballs out if you criticize their hero politician or come down on the opposite side of an issue.
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Mon May 09, 2016 5:11 pm

nochain wrote:
One thing that seems forgotten is this is an informal forum for discussing things. If someone gets hypersensitive, or another misinterprets a post, or another isn't crystal clear about what their post means - guess what? It's just an informal forum, certainly not anywhere near as disgusting as another local forum where some act like they want rip your eyeballs out if you criticize their hero politician or come down on the opposite side of an issue.

Now the other forum is an example of vicious and beyond personal attacks.....well unless the moderator over there shares those same disgusting opinions....
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Tue May 10, 2016 12:48 pm

One thing a moderator does is try to keep discussion from getting out of hand. It is my job to do that, by the way.

This forum was created to avoid the offensive behavior that was rampant on the other forum and I didn't want that to happen. I have offered my job to others before and will gladly step down and leave should you or Nochain want to take it over, MW.

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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Tue May 10, 2016 1:52 pm

[quote="Eric"]One thing a moderator does is try to keep discussion from getting out of hand.  It is my job to do that, by the way.

This forum was created to avoid the offensive behavior that was rampant on the other forum and I didn't want that to happen.  I have offered my job to others before and will gladly step down and leave should you or Nochain want to take it over, MW.[/quot

       Did you read my post....the comments were about the other forum and the moderator over there....I mentioned nothing about the way this forum is run other than to point out that my comments were not a personal attack and certainly not vicious....If defending myself is somehow inappropriate then perhaps I'm not the one with the problem...I didn't set out to pick a personal fight with anyone but I do have enough of a backbone to point out that I don't need to be be lectured or have a condensending tone taken with me when my post contained no infration violation[s] of this or any form or discussion...If I've violated a rule then that's a different matter but simply an interpretation does not make me wrong  or my opinions wrong....whether they are agreed with or not....You entered into the discusson with a view/assumption of my intentions and made the accusation that they were vicious/personal in nature when they were not....so apparently you've got some kind of problem with me and my posts....Lastly, it's difficult to attack someone personally when you don't know them on a personal level....I only know one individual on this forum....'nochain'  and not to speak for him...but no one wants your job as moderator and playing the 'will gladly step down and leave' was not needed and added nothing to what the problem was about.....To prove the point once again.....the poster that was suposed to be attacked viciously....has not complained and as I stated previously...Can only say that my comments were not intended to be either vicious or persoal attacking.and if that's not good enough then so be it....
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Tue May 10, 2016 2:21 pm

Peace pipe anyone????

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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Tue May 10, 2016 2:38 pm

nochain wrote:
Peace pipe anyone????


lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Tue May 10, 2016 2:42 pm

I always liked meeting for a beer to talk and settle differences..
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Tue May 10, 2016 2:55 pm

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I always liked meeting for a beer to talk and settle differences..  

Alcohol....politics....religion....law enforcement etc., discussions....what could possibly go wrong....may make the pnj....
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Tue May 10, 2016 3:39 pm

LOL... I THINK we are all adults and would know when to stop pushing our opinions..
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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Tue May 10, 2016 5:37 pm

then perhaps I'm not the one with the problem

This is a suggestion that I have a problem? Thank you.

I think I will take a long break. PM me if there are any needs.

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PostSubject: Re: Eleven year old boy shoots home invader   Wed May 11, 2016 10:49 am

Eric wrote:
then perhaps I'm not the one with the problem

This is a suggestion that I have a problem?  Thank you.

I think I will take a long break.  PM me if there are any needs.

Relax, por favor! I wouldn't take these things so seriously.
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