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PostSubject: While victory laps......   Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:55 am

and pats on the back were taking place for the removal of the #2 at isis.....all the rhetoric about being on the run and losing....these animals crucified the kidnapped priest on Good Friday and they promised more attacks....Yes, the removal of the #2 thug was a great accomplishment by our Armed Forces....there are still diseased animals killing innocents....The 'on the run, dismantled' Taliban thugs murdered 70 in Pakistan at an Easter Service....Unimaginable that there could be anyone that can't see this as Christian genocide....
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:14 am

Obummer ha$ no plan for dealing with terrorist$, he'$ treading water until he can e$cape the WH and $tart making the BIG BUCK$.
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:21 am

nochain wrote:
Obummer ha$ no plan for dealing with terrorist$, he'$ treading water until he can e$cape the WH and $tart making the BIG BUCK$.

Of course he does.....baseball in Cuba....doing the wave with Castro....dancing...and telling students in Argentina that there's not that big of a difference between capitalism and socialism...pick whichever one is best for you....he said he was going to change America......
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:19 am

Gosh Dang!
If only Bush, pick 1, had wiped them off the face of the earth when he/them were over there. WHY did they not?
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:41 am

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Gosh Dang!
If only Bush, pick 1, had wiped them off the face of the earth when he/them were over there. WHY did they not?

In the case of President George W. Bush.....some of these same democrats NOW supporting the cowh and his drone attacks were calling the Bush Administration 'war criminals'....'war mongers' and accused them of attempting to expand the war with attacks outside of Afghanistan....with their very limited amount of strikes that took place....In the case of President George HW Bush....he built a coalition of nations.... the coalition led by the U.S. kicked Iraq's ass out of Kuwait and did exactly what he said that he would do......which probably would piss a liberal off.....When someone attempts to revise history it's so easy to point out the non-logic in their thinking....
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:10 am

When was the last time there was a body count on the front page of a newspaper or as the lead story of a network news broadcast?
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:53 pm

polecat wrote:
Gosh Dang!
If only Bush, pick 1, had wiped them off the face of the earth when he/them were over there. WHY did they not?

The stated goal was to kick them out of Kuwait. Remember?
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:57 am

nochain wrote:
polecat wrote:
Gosh Dang!
If only Bush, pick 1, had wiped them off the face of the earth when he/them were over there. WHY did they not?

The stated goal was to kick them out of Kuwait. Remember?

President George HW Bush did exactly what needed to be done and although sure there was a temptation to continue on to Bagdad he actually did what he said he and the coalition would do....it's no wonder that some here would criticize and attempt to revise history it's obvious that they wouldn't recognize a foreign policy and a commander-in chief like the former president especially when this cowh has been such a disaster....
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:06 am

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When was the last time there was a body count on the front page of a newspaper or as the lead story of a network news broadcast?

EVERY DAY....EVERY newscast had the body count statistics in an attempt to embarrass/fault the Bush(43) administration. There was the controversy about showing the flag draped coffins arriving at Dover AFB---and after the cowh is in office suddenly that's not a big story anymore...there were those that condemned any and/all drone strikes and of course code pink would throw blood on anyone involved....and now these fake outraged individuals have suddenly allowed this amateur hour administration a free pass...again another example of hypocrisy....'Gosh Dang' some should be embarrassed of their ignorance...
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:35 am

Yes the whole world is safer now that Saddam Hussein is dead.
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:13 pm

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Yes the whole world is safer now that Saddam Hussein is dead.

Right, about like Bin Laden......

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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:21 am

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polecat wrote:
Yes the whole world is safer now that Saddam Hussein is dead.

Right, about like Bin Laden......


There are thousands of Iraqis that just may not agree with the premise about saddam hussein....those mass graves and torture chambers certainly weren't to his credit as a leader....he/his sons/and their goon squads were really war criminals not like the 'war criminal' rhetoric that some on the left throw around....There wasn't a lot of sympathy for him when he crawled out of his rat hole and was brought to justice or his sons spread out on slabs after shooting it out...
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:21 pm

"W" should have never gone back into Iraq.  "HW" kicked Hussein's butt and "W" just HAD to go in there to finish the job that his daddy didn't finish... duh!

Hussein was a strongman and certainly, thousands of his countrymen suffered and many died under him.  Arabs seem to require a strongman to maintain order.  With him gone, however, somewhere between 500,000 and 1,000,000 deaths resulted, with almost 4,500 of our boys killed and over 32,000 of our boys wounded or maimed for life.  ISIS filled the vacuum and our boys are still coming home in body bags.  

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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:27 pm

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"W" should have never gone back into Iraq.  "HW" kicked Hussein's butt and "W" just HAD to go in there to finish the job that his daddy didn't finish... duh!

Hussein was a strongman and certainly, thousands of his countrymen suffered and many died under him.  Arabs seem to require a strongman to maintain order.  With him gone, however, somewhere between 500,000 and 1,000,000 deaths resulted, with almost 4,500 of our boys killed and over 32,000 of our boys wounded or maimed for life.  ISIS filled the vacuum and our boys are still coming home in body bags.  

Lovely, isn't it?

Absolutely correct. Most people in the poorer Mideast (and African continent as a whole) are uneducated and unwilling to accept change. Apparently that's the way they want it and they need to have an absolute dictator to control the various masses. Every country over there where the absolute ruler who kept the masses under control was forcibly removed has spun into chaos.

"W" made a HUGE mistake going in and another by totally disbanding the Iraqi Army. Idiotic, with Saddam Insane at the helm Iran was kept in check, now look at the mess.
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:49 pm

BOTH parties supported sending the military after 9/11, but the Democrats stopped supporting them with supplies and anything else they needed and started calling for them to come home a few weeks after they sent them there to do a job..  It was never clarified what the job was, other than to find Bin Laden and kill him..  It's not the military's fault that he went to Afghanistan, Kuait, Iraq, or any other country.. President Clinton had the opportunity to take him out but didn't do anything to keep him from growing stronger..
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:54 am

nochain wrote:
Eric wrote:
"W" should have never gone back into Iraq.  "HW" kicked Hussein's butt and "W" just HAD to go in there to finish the job that his daddy didn't finish... duh!

Hussein was a strongman and certainly, thousands of his countrymen suffered and many died under him.  Arabs seem to require a strongman to maintain order.  With him gone, however, somewhere between 500,000 and 1,000,000 deaths resulted, with almost 4,500 of our boys killed and over 32,000 of our boys wounded or maimed for life.  ISIS filled the vacuum and our boys are still coming home in body bags.  

Lovely, isn't it?

Absolutely correct. Most people in the poorer Mideast (and African continent as a whole) are uneducated and unwilling to accept change. Apparently that's the way they want it and they need to have an absolute dictator to control the various masses. Every country over there where the absolute ruler who kept the masses under control was forcibly removed has spun into chaos.

"W" made a HUGE mistake going in and another by totally disbanding the Iraqi Army. Idiotic, with Saddam Insane at the helm Iran was kept in check, now look at the mess.

What's interesting besides still debating the Iraq War......is that when the time is taken to go back and pull up the quotes/opinions from the current leaders of the time to the past leaders and their agreement that sadaam was a 'menace' to the region and had to go....Then in just months time some of these same gutless politicians did exactly what you'd expect them to do and one with the loudest voice was hrc...she supported...changed her mind [said she was mislead] and became a voice of opposition to the Bush Administration----and now this same incompetent politician is the front runner for the democrats so perhaps it is appropriate that her qualifications/judgment is being questioned....
It's nice to be able to criticize after the fact but unfortunately leaders make decisions based on the best information/intelligence at the time and aren't afforded with the luxury of Monday morning quarterbacking or political opportunism...
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:04 am

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BOTH parties supported sending the military after 9/11, but the Democrats stopped supporting them with supplies and anything else they needed and started calling for them to come home a few weeks after they sent them there to do a job..  It was never clarified what the job was, other than to find Bin Laden and kill him..  It's not the military's fault that he went to Afghanistan, Kuait, Iraq, or any other country..  President Clinton had the opportunity to take him out but didn't do anything to keep him from growing stronger..

No you too must have missed the memo....all that went wrong was Bush's fault....it's not politically correct to be critical of President Clinton and/or the foreign policy blunders of the cowh....The same cowardly...gutless democrats/republicans that you've described were somehow given a free pass or do over on their decisions and authorization for military actions....sadly they and others have that opportunity and are not held accountable... those that they sent weren't given the same do over status...
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:25 am

I have to say that I support the GOP establishment's effort to take away Donald Trump's job and give it to a Hispanic man who didn't earn it. - LOLGOP
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:29 am

One of the biggest reasons they were sent was Saddam's weapons of mass destruction which time after time were "proven" not to exist but were found by our military and covered up by the same politicians that said they didn't exist.. My son disarmed many of them as an EOD tech in the Air Force, and I'm not talking just IEDs..
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:51 am

Pro-Life/Pro-Choice Donald Trump
Loves Fox News/hates Fox News
Loves Reince/hates Reince

He'll nuke Europe and change his mind right after. - linnyitssn tweet
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:36 pm

Send the troops/bring them home.
We'll figure out what it says after we pass it.
I didn't have sex with that woman.
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:10 pm

A sample of Hillary “Farm Animal” Clinton Reversals

Iraq – she was for it before she was against it

Trans-Pac Partnership – for it when SecState now opposes as a candidate

Gay marriage – for it before she opposed it

Tough on crime – in 1994 she supported mass incarceration and more prisons – now she has flip flopped to ending mass incarceration

Opposed drivers licenses for undocumented immigrants – now she supports it

Voted against ethanol measures 17 times in the Senate – but in Iowa as a candidate – she now supports ethanol

It's clear the Farm Animal doesn't support anything other than her name at the bottom of WH stationary....
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:28 pm

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Tough on crime – in 1994 she supported mass incarceration and more prisons – now she has flip flopped to ending mass incarceration

Strange combination of words... mass incarceration.  What does that pertain to?




I'm fixing to jump on the soapbox here... again.

The New York Times says that the USA has less than 5% of the world's population and almost a quarter of the world's prisoners.  That's more prisoners per 100,000 population than any other country.

We would have plenty of room in our prisons if we ended the War on Drugs.  Here is a breakdown of our prison population from our Bureau of Prisons.


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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:09 pm

How many of the drug offenders had weapons and were arrested multiple times and released early for good behavior? How many of the drug offenses are related for multiple DUIs with deaths or injuries? DUI's are not just alcohol related.. How many of the immigration crimes were related to the sex and weapons crimes?
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PostSubject: Re: While victory laps......   Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:53 am

Jake92 wrote:
How many of the drug offenders had weapons and were arrested multiple times and released early for good behavior?  How many of the drug offenses are related for multiple DUIs with deaths or injuries?  DUI's are not just alcohol related..  How many of the immigration crimes were related to the sex and weapons crimes?

'Drug Offenses'.....Very vague and broad....Can be for simple possession/personal use amounts to more severe violations--larger amounts to trafficking etc., Do the same drug offenses include violent stats that accompany in some instances?....
The immigration crimes have opened eyes to the out of control lack of enforcement...there are examples time and time again that the 'illegal' had been deported several times....returning and continuing to commit crimes...Selective and non-enforcement has created this mess...
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