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Well apparently she knows a good lie when she hears one. The VA Secretary has been busted several times now for lying about disciplining people who manipulated wait time numbers. I seriously doubt if anyone has a clue about the true problems at the VA, for one thing veterans are ignored by the media.

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"VA secretary misstates the number of wait-time manipulation disciplinary actions — again"

"McDonald used to run the consumer products giant Proctor & Gamble, so let’s put this in terms he might understand. His misstating of wait-time manipulation figures is akin to bragging to P&G shareholders about the earnings for Crest toothpaste — without mentioning that fact that you are also including the earnings for Scope mouthwash and Vicks cough and cold products. It’s simply false and misleading."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/10/va-secretary-misstates-the-number-of-wait-time-manipulation-disciplinary-actions-again/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_factchecker-730am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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Well apparently she knows a good lie when she hears one. The VA Secretary has been busted several times now for lying about disciplining people who manipulated wait time numbers. I seriously doubt if anyone has a clue about the true problems at the VA, for one thing veterans are ignored by the media.

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"VA secretary misstates the number of wait-time manipulation disciplinary actions — again"

"McDonald used to run the consumer products giant Proctor & Gamble, so let’s put this in terms he might understand. His misstating of wait-time manipulation figures is akin to bragging to P&G shareholders about the earnings for Crest toothpaste — without mentioning that fact that you are also including the earnings for Scope mouthwash and Vicks cough and cold products. It’s simply false and misleading."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/10/va-secretary-misstates-the-number-of-wait-time-manipulation-disciplinary-actions-again/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_factchecker-730am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

There were articles/news reports that there were calls for him to be dismissed but the cowh stands behind this choice and as usual veterans continue to pay their price.....Things don't appear to get better should hrc be elected because she's already said that the problems were "overblown"....[kinda like her husband was].....
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She came right out and said that giving vets a choice of a private provider is a betrayal. I assume she sees it as a betrayal of the collectivist ideology that only believes in the one choice of govt single provider. NO choice is the progressive goal for all of society.
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She came right out and said that giving vets a choice of a private provider is a betrayal. I assume she sees it as a betrayal of the collectivist ideology that only believes in the one choice of govt single provider. NO choice is the progressive goal for all of society.

Having dealt with the VA ONCE, and only ONCE, it almost seems they try to drag out a case in the hopes the Vet dies before they have to expend any resources. And too many Vets do.....
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She came right out and said that giving vets a choice of a private provider is a betrayal. I assume she sees it as a betrayal of the collectivist ideology that only believes in the one choice of govt single provider. NO choice is the progressive goal for all of society.

Having dealt with the VA ONCE, and only ONCE, it almost seems they try to drag out a case in the hopes the Vet dies before they have to expend any resources. And too many Vets do.....

And if there's someone that doesn't understand that morbid...disgraceful thinking....just another reason she should not be president and commander-in-chief!....
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And then we have this boondoggle with our tax monies...


WASHINGTON – The Department of Veterans Affairs doled out more than $142 million in bonuses to executives and employees for performance in 2014 even as scandals over veterans' health care and other issues racked the agency.

Among the recipients were claims processors in a Philadelphia benefits office that investigators dubbed the worst in the country last year. They received $300 to $900 each. Managers in Tomah, Wis., got $1,000 to $4,000, even though they oversaw the over-prescription of opiates to veterans – one of whom died.

The VA also rewarded executives who managed construction of a facility in Denver, a disastrous project years overdue and more than $1 billion over budget. They took home $4,000 to $8,000 each. And in St. Cloud, Minn., where an internal investigation report last year outlined mismanagement that led to mass resignations of health care providers, the chief of staff cited by investigators received a performance bonus of almost $4,000.
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And then we have this boondoggle with our tax monies...



WASHINGTON – The Department of Veterans Affairs doled out more than $142 million in bonuses to executives and employees for performance in 2014 even as scandals over veterans' health care and other issues racked the agency.

Among the recipients were claims processors in a Philadelphia benefits office that investigators dubbed the worst in the country last year. They received $300 to $900 each. Managers in Tomah, Wis., got $1,000 to $4,000, even though they oversaw the over-prescription of opiates to veterans – one of whom died.

The VA also rewarded executives who managed construction of a facility in Denver, a disastrous project years overdue and more than $1 billion over budget. They took home $4,000 to $8,000 each. And in St. Cloud, Minn., where an internal investigation report last year outlined mismanagement that led to mass resignations of health care providers, the chief of staff cited by investigators received a performance bonus of almost $4,000.

Rewarding failure, isn't our Guvmint the best!

I've read about that Denver facility fiasco, the most incredibly incompetent effort ever. From what I've read the major problem has been the VA wouldn't listen to contractors who tried to tell them of all the flaws in the VA's plan. Of course the VA doesn't listen to Vets so what could we expect? I mean, how hard is it to build a hospital? Sacred Heart builds a new facility in Pensacola - it seems like every week........they pop up like mushrooms after a good rain.
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Eric wrote:
And then we have this boondoggle with our tax monies...



WASHINGTON – The Department of Veterans Affairs doled out more than $142 million in bonuses to executives and employees for performance in 2014 even as scandals over veterans' health care and other issues racked the agency.

Among the recipients were claims processors in a Philadelphia benefits office that investigators dubbed the worst in the country last year. They received $300 to $900 each. Managers in Tomah, Wis., got $1,000 to $4,000, even though they oversaw the over-prescription of opiates to veterans – one of whom died.

The VA also rewarded executives who managed construction of a facility in Denver, a disastrous project years overdue and more than $1 billion over budget. They took home $4,000 to $8,000 each. And in St. Cloud, Minn., where an internal investigation report last year outlined mismanagement that led to mass resignations of health care providers, the chief of staff cited by investigators received a performance bonus of almost $4,000.

Rewarding failure, isn't our Guvmint the best!

I've read about that Denver facility fiasco, the most incredibly incompetent effort ever. From what I've read the major problem has been the VA wouldn't listen to contractors who tried to tell them of all the flaws in the VA's plan. Of course the VA doesn't listen to Vets so what could we expect? I mean, how hard is it to build a hospital? Sacred Heart builds a new facility in Pensacola - it seems like every week........they pop up like mushrooms after a good rain.

I just read the article eric posted.....

There are some that just don't have a conscience....bonuses while vets died due to incompetence of the VA...How can they sleep at night?....This administration continues it's amateur actions and incompetence while the wanna be president/commander-in-chief claims the problems were "overblown" and not that "widespread"....Wonder if the VA members getting their bonus checks will contribute to the Clinton Foundation for job security....
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Really, farm animal?
I wish I had the money that farm animal has and the powerful positions she's had through the years.
She's a pretty classy lady in my book, and probably a lot smarter than any one of us on this forum.

FYI, there's a VA Check that goes into our family's checking account  the first of every month, and we have given occasionally to the Clinton Foundation. They do a lot of good things.   Also, IMO, the local VA is a great place to get medical care. Been using it for about 20 years now and consider it excellent.

That 5 million dollar gas station in Afghanistan shows which branch of the government wastes the most money. It's the Pentagon.
We need to take the money away from them, bring the soldiers home and use that money for our own citizen's benefits.
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Really, farm animal?
I wish I had the money that farm animal has and the powerful positions she's had through the years.
She's a pretty classy lady in my book, and probably a lot smarter than any one of us on this forum.

FYI, there's a VA Check that goes into our family's checking account  the first of every month, and we have given occasionally to the Clinton Foundation. They do a lot of good things.   Also, IMO, the local VA is a great place to get medical care. Been using it for about 20 years now and consider it excellent.

That 5 million dollar gas station in Afghanistan shows which branch of the government wastes the most money. It's the Pentagon.
We need to take the money away from them, bring the soldiers home and use that money for our own citizen's benefits.

Billary is what she is, a typical politician who says and does whatever it takes to get what she wants. She disgusts me because she has mislead and outright lied about too many things.

BTW, that gas station cost $43 million not a mere $5M. Ridiculous isn't it?

I've said for a long time we need to get out of the M/E but I also know the "Pentagon" ONLY does what they are told by the administration. Blame the administration, not the worker bees.
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Eddard wrote:
Really, farm animal?
I wish I had the money that farm animal has and the powerful positions she's had through the years.
She's a pretty classy lady in my book, and probably a lot smarter than any one of us on this forum.

FYI, there's a VA Check that goes into our family's checking account  the first of every month, and we have given occasionally to the Clinton Foundation. They do a lot of good things.   Also, IMO, the local VA is a great place to get medical care. Been using it for about 20 years now and consider it excellent.

That 5 million dollar gas station in Afghanistan shows which branch of the government wastes the most money. It's the Pentagon.
We need to take the money away from them, bring the soldiers home and use that money for our own citizen's benefits.

Billary is what she is, a typical politician who says and does whatever it takes to get what she wants. She disgusts me because she has mislead and outright lied about too many things.

BTW, that gas station cost $43 million not a mere $5M. Ridiculous isn't it?

I've said for a long time we need to get out of the M/E but I also know the "Pentagon" ONLY does what they are told by the administration. Blame the administration, not the worker bees.

The $43 Million dollar gas station happened under who's administration?....Certainly the Pentagon isn't responsible but to expect the supporters of this corrupt...inept administration to be held accountable/responsible simply isn't going to ever happen...
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I don't think a person that so desperately covets power should ever get it.

Guess that rules out every politician in the world... lol.
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HRC doesn't care about vets, say pols who cut vets' food stamps, UE benefits & sent them to war on a lie in the 1st place.- John Fugelsang
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Hillary's lone accomplishment as sos was turning libya into chaos and radicalization.

So she's got that going for her. Eh comrade?
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Do you smell bullshit?? ...I think I smell bullshit!
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Hillary's lone accomplishment as sos was turning libya into chaos and radicalization.

So she's got that going for her. Eh comrade?

She couldn't even remember that fact when asked by Dianne Sawyer but she clearly remembers "landing under sniper fire" in Bosnia. Billary is so shallow a mosquito couldn't lay an egg in her.....
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Who is "John Fugelsang" anyway - some literate political theorist or a 2nd rate actor? My guess is a 2nd rate actor trying to get attention.
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Who is "John Fugelsang" anyway - some literate political theorist or a 2nd rate actor? My guess is a 2nd rate actor trying to get attention.

   He's who a liberal will quote when you smell what 'ricey' posted earlier...

An actor(?)...tv personality(?)...and comedian(?)....affiliated with something called msnbc(?)....again a perfect fit for liberal ideology must be looking for a replacement guru for Bill Maher.....


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She desperately wanted credit for overthrowing gaddafi... until that turned out catastrophic.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/18592/new-clinton-emails-expose-collaboration-with-media-on-benghazi-coverag1

Now that Libya has descended into chaos, Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is at pains to dispel the notion that, as secretary of state, she led the U.S. intervention that toppled dictator Muammar Gaddafi in 2011. Yet the latest tranche of emails from Clinton’s private server, released by the State Department on October 30, shows there’s one individual who would strongly object to those efforts: the Hillary Clinton of 2011 and 2012. A report in June by the New York Times revealed that in August 2011, Clinton’s advisors had urged her to take credit for what was then seen as a military success in Libya. Now, the newly released emails show that the former secretary of state was herself intent on emphasizing her key role in the affair—and that her team used cozy relationships with the media to help her do so. In one exchange, on April 4, 2012, a frustrated Clinton complains to her staffers that they’d omitted a number of key details in a timeline titled “Secretary Clinton’s leadership on Libya.” The timeline, which aims to show that Clinton “was instrumental in securing the authorization, building the coalition and tightening the noose around Qadhafi [sic] and his regime,” would later be provided to media.
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PkrBum wrote:
She desperately wanted credit for overthrowing gaddafi... until that turned out catastrophic.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/18592/new-clinton-emails-expose-collaboration-with-media-on-benghazi-coverag1

Now that Libya has descended into chaos, Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton is at pains to dispel the notion that, as secretary of state, she led the U.S. intervention that toppled dictator Muammar Gaddafi in 2011. Yet the latest tranche of emails from Clinton’s private server, released by the State Department on October 30, shows there’s one individual who would strongly object to those efforts: the Hillary Clinton of 2011 and 2012. A report in June by the New York Times revealed that in August 2011, Clinton’s advisors had urged her to take credit for what was then seen as a military success in Libya. Now, the newly released emails show that the former secretary of state was herself intent on emphasizing her key role in the affair—and that her team used cozy relationships with the media to help her do so. In one exchange, on April 4, 2012, a frustrated Clinton complains to her staffers that they’d omitted a number of key details in a timeline titled “Secretary Clinton’s leadership on Libya.” The timeline, which aims to show that Clinton “was instrumental in securing the authorization, building the coalition and tightening the noose around Qadhafi [sic] and his regime,” would later be provided to media.

    This is why when people are asked to name one accomplishment of FFLOTUS...Senator...& Sec of State they can only offer [as she has] that her positions have beneficial because she's a woman...No different then when the stories came out that she spoke out in favor of being in favor of the raid on obl...on the campaign trail she claimed she did but Leon Penetta and even Joe Biden have different accounts....Trustworthy?...Truthful?...Accountable?...Responsible?...There's a reason she's called a liar...
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that's okay.
She'll be POTUS/elect by this time next year.

The best revenge is always living well.
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The problem with the Farm Animal is you never know who is going to show up. Funny how the majority of people don't trust the Farm Animal but would vote for her anyway - the true definition of Low Information Voters.

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The problem with the Farm Animal is you never know who is going to show up. Funny how the majority of people don't trust the Farm Animal but would vote for her anyway - the true definition of Low Information Voters.

Farm Animal Billary doesn't think VA problems are "widespread" MAD-Magazine-535-Hillary-Cover_55c373e96a7878.12277368

Sorry to correct....but the problem is...will she show up or leave more to fend for themselves and possibly die...She's got a record but too bad not an orange jumpsuit with numbers....
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nochain wrote:
The problem with the Farm Animal is you never know who is going to show up. Funny how the majority of people don't trust the Farm Animal but would vote for her anyway - the true definition of Low Information Voters.

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Not so. Those voters know all of hers and Bill's faults.
It's about the load of clowns in the clown car that the Republicans want to replace them with.

There's not a one of the Republicans running that I would trust with the power to launch a nuclear attack.
Hillary and Bill have their faults, but at least they are grown ups.
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Bill and Hillary are grown ups?

All one has to do is see what HRC ignored in her quest for power, a cheating husband caught multiple times and who knows how many cases swept under the rug with payoffs.

I can't see HRC being in charge of nukes or any part of this country given her propensity for lying and ignoring facts to polish her own image.

If that's being "grown up" I'd hate to see what childish looks like.
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