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PostSubject: Re: The Globe has been Warming for 10K Years... Duh   Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:43 am

Maryland is even taxing rain (you know, that O'Malley dude that wants to be Pres...)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbrown/2014/01/03/when-it-rains-it-pours-tax-dollars-in-maryland/
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PostSubject: Re: The Globe has been Warming for 10K Years... Duh   Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:59 pm

nochain wrote:
Maryland is even taxing rain (you know, that O'Malley dude that wants to be Pres...)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbrown/2014/01/03/when-it-rains-it-pours-tax-dollars-in-maryland/

He must figure...If Gore can make millions.....
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PostSubject: Re: The Globe has been Warming for 10K Years... Duh   Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:59 pm

nochain wrote:
Maryland is even taxing rain (you know, that O'Malley dude that wants to be Pres...)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbrown/2014/01/03/when-it-rains-it-pours-tax-dollars-in-maryland/

He must figure...If Gore can make millions.....
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PostSubject: Re: The Globe has been Warming for 10K Years... Duh   Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:02 am

NYC under water by June 2015: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2015/06/12/flashback-abcs-08-prediction-nyc-under-water-climate-change-june


A small list of failed climate predictions:


“The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won’t be there. The trees in the median strip will change….There will be more police cars….[since] you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up.” Dr. James Hansen, 1988, in an interview with author Rob Reiss. Reiss asked how the greenhouse effect was likely to affect the neighborhood below Hansen’s office in NYC in the next 20 years.

June 30, 1989, Associated Press: U.N. OFFICIAL PREDICTS DISASTER, SAYS GREENHOUSE EFFECT COULD WIPE SOME NATIONS OFF MAP–entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ‘eco-refugees,’ threatening political chaos,” said Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program. He added that governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect.

Michael Oppenheimer, 1990, The Environmental Defense Fund: “By 1995, the greenhouse effect would be desolating the heartlands of North America and Eurasia with horrific drought, causing crop failures and food riots…”(By 1996) The Platte River of Nebraska would be dry, while a continent-wide black blizzard of prairie topsoil will stop traffic on interstates, strip paint from houses and shut down computers…The Mexican police will round up illegal American migrants surging into Mexico seeking work as field hands.”

“The more than ‘unusually ‘warm January weather is yet ‘another extreme event’, ‘a harbinger of the winters that are ahead of us’. … The global temperature will ‘increase every year by 0.2°C’” Michael Müller, Socialist, State Secretary in the Federal Ministry of Environment, Die Zeit, 15 Jan 2007

Edward Goldsmith, 1991, (5000 Days to Save the Planet): “By 2000, British and American oil will have diminished to a trickle….Ozone depletion and global warming threaten food shortages, but the wealthy North will enjoy a temporary reprieve by buying up the produce of the South. Unrest among the hungry and the ensuing political instability, will be contained by the North’s greater military might. A bleak future indeed, but an inevitable one unless we change the way we live…At present rates of exploitation there may be no rainforest left in 10 years. If measures are not taken immediately, the greenhouse effect may be unstoppable in 12 to 15 years.”

“Within a few years winter snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event. … Children just aren’t going to know what snow is.” David Viner, Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, 20 March 2000

June 11, 1986, Dr. James Hansen of the Goddard Space Institute (NASA) in testimony to Congress (according to the Milwaukee Journal): “Hansen predicted global temperatures should be nearly 2 degrees higher in 20 years, ‘which is about the warmest the earth has been in the last 100,000 years.’”

June 8, 1972, Christian Science Monitor: “Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000.”

May 15, 1989, Associated Press: “Using computer models, researchers concluded that global warming would raise average annual temperatures nationwide [USA] two degrees by 2010.”
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PostSubject: Re: The Globe has been Warming for 10K Years... Duh   Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:06 am

Climate science is still in its infancy compared to the age of the earth and all of the climate cycles that have happened. I have to agree that all of the chemicals and carbon monoxide being dumped into the atmosphere is a bad thing but it's just one thing. Even if the U.S. jumped to the head of the line and completely eliminated carbon fuels it would have a negligible effect globally when third world cesspools are still burning dirty coal and firewood. Russia is the most polluted country on earth, China has horrible air pollution, and India is just as bad. Those are all countries with large populations that contribute more pollution than the U.S. ever will.

Two words come to mind that deserves maximum investment instead of just hit or miss things like solar and wind that require enormous geographic footprints to contribute much in elimination of carbon:

Cold fusion.....
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PostSubject: Re: The Globe has been Warming for 10K Years... Duh   Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:00 am

If you mean private investment to a very large degree... I agree. There's nothing wrong inherently with some govt support subsidy... but the more effective method of innovation is private imo. Back in the 70's Carter threw enormous largesse at shale oil extraction during the gas crisis... but in the end it was private investment that provided the solution. I predict that as oil reserves do begin to decline that the natural evolution will figure out the alternatives... as usual. That will also solve the rise of co2... which hasn't correlated to the warming anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: The Globe has been Warming for 10K Years... Duh   Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:06 pm

Scientists are serious about climate change. Insurance companies are too. Even the Pope is.

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PostSubject: Re: The Globe has been Warming for 10K Years... Duh   Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:32 am

http://m.phys.org/news/2015-07-marine-life-cultivates-summer-cloud.html

How clouds form and how they help set the temperature of the earth are two of the big remaining questions in climate research. Now, a study of clouds over the world's remotest ocean shows that ocean life is responsible for up to half the cloud droplets that pop in and out of existence during summer.

The study, which appears online July 17 in Science Advances, combines computer modeling with satellite data over the Southern Ocean, the vast sea surrounding Antarctica. It reveals how tiny natural particles given off by marine organisms—airborne droplets and solid particles called aerosols - nearly double cloud droplet numbers in the summer, which boosts the amount of sunlight reflected back to space. And for the first time, this study estimates how much solar energy that equates to over the whole Southern Ocean.

"It is a strong effect," said climate scientist Susannah Burrows at the Department of Energy's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory. "But it makes sense because most of the area down there is ocean, with strong winds that kick up a lot of spray and lots of marine microorganisms producing these particles. And continental aerosol sources are mostly so far away that they only have a limited impact. Really the marine aerosols are running the show there."
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PostSubject: Re: The Globe has been Warming for 10K Years... Duh   Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:52 am

There are so many things in this world that act as buffers to counteract extremes... maybe this is one of 'em.

They talk about sea ice melting and, with a lack of a white surface (ice), the earth will warm. Perhaps a heavier cloud layer will offset this with white clouds reflecting the sun back into space.

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