The Police State is More than Police

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/04/17/state-seizes-11-year-old-arrests-his-mother-after-he-defends-medical-marijuana-during-a-school-presentation/

Well, they did find a pound of pot at the home where the mother smoked with others in front of her son... In Kansas, where even medical marijuana isn't permitted.

Taking the child away is heavy-handed, though.

I'm not anti-MJ, but the mom flagrantly broke Kansas law.  Sadly, it appears that the child will be the one to be punished... and endure the loss of his mother.

PkrBum wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/04/17/state-seizes-11-year-old-arrests-his-mother-after-he-defends-medical-marijuana-during-a-school-presentation/

Does the state/law enforcement really have a choice in this matter?...There is no defense for a parent that would intentionally/knowingly toke it up with others in front of her kid...Unfortunately and as already pointed out it will be the minor that will suffer the consequences for the stupidity of someone that's supposed to be the adult/parent...

I don't see any difference from drinking a beer in front of a child.

I know that the laws in place are based on progressive prohibition era politics... if not for hearst and his fascist collusion with our govt there are a thousand other controls that would've never gained traction. We either need to start backing off the authoritarian track or accept and embrace that we are no longer a free country/people nor a sovereign nation. Let's end the pretense one way or another.

PkrBum wrote:

I don't see any difference from drinking a beer in front of a child.

I know that the laws in place are based on progressive prohibition era politics... if not for hearst and his fascist collusion with our govt there are a thousand other controls that would've never gained traction. We either need to start backing off the authoritarian track or accept and embrace that we are no longer a free country/people nor a sovereign nation. Let's end the pretense one way or another.

So where and/or how would or should the line be drawn then?....It's a good discussion as to what has to happen before it becomes detrimental to the well being of a minor...Your question asked would be correct if there was another component added...no drinking beer alone in front of a child is not illegal but coupled with other actions can place the minor in a dangerous situation...Smoking pot by itself is illegal by itself and not coupled with anything else...now if the laws continue to change then that would change the entire situation....

Police have no option when they discover a crime. It would be foolish to allow them to selectively enforce only those laws they agree with, you know - like Holders DOJ does.........

PkrBum wrote:

I don't see any difference from drinking a beer in front of a child.

I know that the laws in place are based on progressive prohibition era politics... if not for hearst and his fascist collusion with our govt there are a thousand other controls that would've never gained traction. We either need to start backing off the authoritarian track or accept and embrace that we are no longer a free country/people nor a sovereign nation. Let's end the pretense one way or another.

Kidnapping someones kid because they smoked something god planted on the earth is a foul use of the law and a stench on this land...right up there with the cops robbing people at gunpoint and calling it asset forfeiture, no crime doesn't pay unless you wear a state costume I guess...or selling weapons to Hitler like the Bush family did. Or selling illegal booze like the Kennedy's did....

nochain wrote:

Police have no option when they discover a crime. It would be foolish to allow them to selectively enforce only those laws they agree with, you know - like Holders DOJ does.........

Hopefully Ms Lynch will be confirmed and Mr Holder can ride off into the sunset.. he like the cowh has left enough of a legacy behind...

Small-town cops caught improperly seizing cars for minor traffic violations, then selling them to junkyards. Most of the transactions were off the books, and a lot of the money is still unaccounted for.

Undercover Cop Arrested for Selling Drugs to an Undercover Cop


Georgia Cop Selling Marijuana from His Squad Car Gets Busted


A cop in Bradford County has been suspended for allegedly selling an AK-47 out of the back of the patrol car last week.

ad nauseam

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Small-town cops caught improperly seizing cars for minor traffic violations, then selling them to junkyards. Most of the transactions were off the books, and a lot of the money is still unaccounted for.

Undercover Cop Arrested for Selling Drugs to an Undercover Cop


Georgia Cop Selling Marijuana from His Squad Car Gets Busted


A cop in Bradford County has been suspended for allegedly selling an AK-47 out of the back of the patrol car last week.

ad nauseam

Out of 800,000 LEOs there are bound to be some bad ones. You know, just like politicians and the rest of the citizenry......

More like out of 800,000 cops I hope there's a good one....

nochain wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Small-town cops caught improperly seizing cars for minor traffic violations, then selling them to junkyards. Most of the transactions were off the books, and a lot of the money is still unaccounted for.

Undercover Cop Arrested for Selling Drugs to an Undercover Cop


Georgia Cop Selling Marijuana from His Squad Car Gets Busted


A cop in Bradford County has been suspended for allegedly selling an AK-47 out of the back of the patrol car last week.

ad nauseam

Out of 800,000 LEOs there are bound to be some bad ones. You know, just like politicians and the rest of the citizenry......

That's just way to simple and logical of an explanation...when you're [collectively not a personal attack intended] convinced that 'all' of any group are criminals then that explains a lot....

If "A" sees "B" commit a crime and "A" passively approves of that crime by doing nothing then "A" is just as guilty as "B" in my opinion.

Using Teo's reasoning, if he sees someone or knows of someone smoking pot, he is breaking the law for not reporting it..  Are you guilty Teo??? What other crimes are you guilty of Teo?? What cop crime did you NOT report??

I don't hang around with pot heads and I certainly don't hang around with assholes that think kids belong to the state and can be kidnapped for the least infraction

Also I call in impaired drivers all the time. This so called war on drugs is a war on all of us. It carries a presumption of guilt which should not exist. I would try to nullify any jury trial I sat on trying a pothead for simply smoking the weed. At this time in history it's the law that is the dope.

But the law is the law.. Why not call in pot heads using ILLEGAL drugs if you call in drunks for using a LEGAL drug..

Drunks are more likely to kill somebody with their car.  Potheads tend to drive too slow and stop for munchies a lot.

I have been high on both and there is no comparison... the drunk is, by far, the greater danger.  Drunks tend to drive too fast and swerve all over the place.

Jake, if you lived in the roaring 20's when prohibition was in force, would you have turned in someone for taking a nip?  Not me.  Pot laws are slowly being changed and it will be legal all over the US in a decade or two.  There are plenty of asinine laws on the books and I am NOT one to turn over my fellow man if I think he isn't harming anyone.

Yes the law is the law guess I need to return my black neighbors to their rightful owner.

Teo, for the last few years you've been anti cop about everything they do..  I agree there are a few bad ones, but the vast majority are good and trying to enforce the laws..  About your back neighbors, YOU are being extremely racist but I know you are just trying to be funny...

Oh so I am racist ?...hey Eric I am reporting a personal attack...Well obviously Jake is dense to see the correlation..no humor was  intended...forget about it I need to be more tolerant of the breed.

I did not say you are racist, but I said your comment was racist but I knew you were trying to make a joke.. It wasn't funny at all.. Go ask Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson...
Enough Teo... I'll just keep my mouth shut and skip your comments...

Oops, I did say you were racist.. I'm sorry I took your comment the way you meant it....

The truth doesn't need slurs.

Jake92 wrote:

Teo, for the last few years you've been anti cop about everything they do..  I agree there are a few bad ones, but the vast majority are good and trying to enforce the laws..  About your back neighbors, YOU are being extremely racist but I know you are just trying to be funny...

     You're beating a dead horse!....But the point was made...there are/were bad laws and there needed to be changes...The neighbor comment was not needed in that fashion to make a point although if it's comedic guess it's all right?....Understood your post/response...guess that means I'm 'dense' also...