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PostSubject: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:46 pm

Former President Bill Clinton, mere hours before the 9/11 terror attack, openly acknowledged that he turned down a chance to kill Usama bin Laden, according to a newly released recording.

The former president can be heard admitting this in a speech to Australian business leaders on Sept. 10, 2001.

Until now, Clinton's eerie words had not been made public. But a businessman who had access to the nearly 13-year-old recording handed it over to Sky News Australia, which broadcast it in a report Monday.

"I'm just saying, you know, if I were Usama bin Laden -- he's a very smart guy, I've spent a lot of time thinking about him -- and I nearly got him once," Clinton said on the recording.

10 HOURS before the terror attacks in NY.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/31/clinton-on-sept-10-2001-could-have-killed-bin-laden-but-didnt/

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:08 am

Yes, he had the opportunity to kill him several times. On PDF I said Clinton could have had Bin Laden killed several times and the left went nuts....deny deny deny the facts.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:24 am

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Yes, he had the opportunity to kill him several times.  On PDF  I said Clinton could have had Bin Laden killed several times and the left went nuts....deny deny deny the facts.

And then that lead to the well.... Bush had an opportunity....Right?..... Wasn't that after the first WTC bombing that occurred in an underground garage?....
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:18 am

You just don't kill people because you don't like them, or feel that they MIGHT do us harm in the future.

He was an ally of sorts in Afghanistan when he was fighting the Russians in the 1980's.

bin Laden may or may not have been involved in the first WTC bombing. Certainly, Khaled Sheikh Mohammed was involved, but the mastermind is reported to be Ramzi Yousef. I suspect that bin Laden knew about it beforehand.

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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:57 am

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You just don't kill people because you don't like them, or feel that they MIGHT do us harm in the future.  

He was an ally of sorts in Afghanistan when he was fighting the Russians in the 1980's.

bin Laden may or may not have been involved in the first WTC bombing.  Certainly, Khaled Sheikh Mohammed was involved, but the mastermind is reported to be Ramzi Yousef.  I suspect that bin Laden knew about it beforehand.


Thank you Eric. It would be nice if Clinton's entire statement was included. He said that to kill BinLaden he would have had to have destroyed a good part of Fallujah and at least 300 innocent civilians would have died.
It wasn't because the liberals didn't want binLaden. It's because Bill Clinton didn't want to kill 300 innocents to get one guilty person. And at that time, binLaden was not yet guilty of the twin towers attack.

I wouldn't have gone in to kill him either.  Hindsight is always 20-20 but forseeing the future is very complicated.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:35 pm

The Pentagon advised against a cruise missile attack. It would have been the wrong thing to do, like using a hammer to kill an ant crawling on a baby. I don't blame the guy a bit for the decision.

""I'm just saying, you know, if I were Osama bin Laden — he's a very smart guy, I've spent a lot of time thinking about him — and I nearly got him once," Clinton, who had left the White House that January, said.

"I nearly got him. And I could have killed him, but I would have to destroy a little town called Kandahar in Afghanistan and kill 300 innocent women and children, and then I would have been no better than him. And so I didn't do it,” he added.

Ten hours after Clinton made those remarks, two planes hit the World Trade Center, one later hit the Pentagon and another crashed into a field in Pennsylvania in the al Qaeda attack that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Sky News aired the Clinton tape this week, which Australia’s former Liberal Party president, Michael Kroger, had recorded at the time. The tape had never been played publicly, Sky News said.

The 9/11 Commission report, released after the attacks, said the U.S. had considered a strike on Kandahar in Dec. 1998. Clinton’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, however, advised the president against launching a cruise missile to kill bin Laden."



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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:39 pm

Bin Laden was dead from Kidney failure within a few months anyway....so what ?
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:12 pm

Clinton had more than 1 chance to take out Bin Laden .......with minimum or maximum loss of life .
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:06 pm

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The Pentagon advised against a cruise missile attack. It would have been the wrong thing to do, like using a hammer to kill an ant crawling on a baby. I don't blame the guy a bit for the decision.

""I'm just saying, you know, if I were Osama bin Laden — he's a very smart guy, I've spent a lot of time thinking about him — and I nearly got him once," Clinton, who had left the White House that January, said.

"I nearly got him. And I could have killed him, but I would have to destroy a little town called Kandahar in Afghanistan and kill 300 innocent women and children, and then I would have been no better than him. And so I didn't do it,” he added.

Ten hours after Clinton made those remarks, two planes hit the World Trade Center, one later hit the Pentagon and another crashed into a field in Pennsylvania in the al Qaeda attack that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Sky News aired the Clinton tape this week, which Australia’s former Liberal Party president, Michael Kroger, had recorded at the time. The tape had never been played publicly, Sky News said.

The 9/11 Commission report, released after the attacks, said the U.S. had considered a strike on Kandahar in Dec. 1998. Clinton’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, however, advised the president against launching a cruise missile to kill bin Laden."



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Thank you for correcting me. I was just writing from memory from the news yesterday. I was thinking he said Fallujah but it was Kandahar instead.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:09 pm

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Clinton had more than 1 chance to take out Bin Laden .......with minimum or maximum loss of life .


We don't know that and in the long run it was Obama who took out binLaden.
Bush failed at it.

Just so long as we're blaming previous presidents I thought I'd mention that.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:17 pm

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Bin Laden was dead from Kidney failure within a few months anyway....so what ?

Yep.

But its odd how he was just talking about him 10 hours before the attacks. What are the odds?
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:11 am

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Joanimaroni wrote:
Clinton had more than 1 chance to take out Bin Laden .......with minimum or maximum loss of life .


We don't know that and in the long run it was Obama who took out binLaden.
Bush failed at it.

Just so long as we're blaming previous presidents I thought I'd mention that.


Ding...ding!!!!...There it is....Bush failed at it!... Congratulations you've kept the blame Bush rhetoric alive!... Surprised it's taken this long to do so...So if Clinton had done it Bush couldn't have failed?...Clinton caused this failure?...
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:24 pm

Well, since the purpose of the thread is to blame Clinton for letting binLaden live, I feel perfectly justified in pointing out that Bush didn't kill him off either. He may have been able to had he been willing to go further into the mountains of Tora Bora but he wasn't. And Clinton did not want to shed innocent lives to do so. I don't find that to be a bad reason to hold back at all.
You hated Clinton and I hated Bush. So let's just all give Obama the credit for getting bin Laden. Of course it was our intelligence services and a lot of Navy Seals that actually did it, but since we are blaming presidents, which is all you seem to do, I'll choose Bush to blame and you can choose Clinton. In the end it gets boring because it's all about party politics.
It would be nice if it weren't always just so predictable.....
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:15 pm

Assuming he was actually Bin Laden who was killed by Obama's order. There was never any concrete confirmation with a burial at sea. And then we have Biden sealing the fate of the Navy Seals.



On May 3, at an event in Washington, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. did the unthinkable: He publicly revealed the identity of the special-operations unit responsible for bin Laden’s killing. His reckless action put at risk the lives of every member of SEAL Team 6. The Taliban and other jihadists eager to avenge bin Laden now knew which unit to target. Stunned and shocked, SEAL members immediately realized they were going to be hunted by al Qaeda sympathizers.


25 Seals from team 6, that we know of, have been killed.


Read more: http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/7/the-betrayal-of-the-navys-seal-team-6/#ixzz39MhpdARS
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:29 pm

I have some real doubts about the conspiracy theory proposed in that article. It almost implies that the military wanted the Seals dead and I see no reason at all to make that kind of assumption. As for the team being outed, I guess that's become presidential tradition. I suppose Biden outed the seal team to keep the tradition going of Vice Presidents outing our intelligence forces started by Dick Cheney when he outed Valerie Plame, Huh?  Makes sense to me.Far be it from any of us not to follow tradition.
A lot of Navy seals die in war zones. These guys died in Afghanistan under combat conditions. I don't think there's any need to suspect a plot caused their death. I have no reason at all to think that the people who shot down that aircraft knew who was on board. It was an American aircraft in a warzone. Enemies shoot them down. That's their job. Just like the job of our forces is to shoot down any aircraft our enemies might be using against us.

It's a dangerous occupation these men went into and some people die.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:31 pm

Once outed, Seals and their families feared the outcome.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3047706/posts


Valarie Plame is still alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:34 pm

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Assuming he was actually Bin Laden who was killed by Obama's order.  There was never any concrete confirmation with a burial at sea. And then we have Biden sealing the fate of the Navy Seals.



On May 3, at an event in Washington, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. did the unthinkable: He publicly revealed the identity of the special-operations unit responsible for bin Laden’s killing. His reckless action put at risk the lives of every member of SEAL Team 6. The Taliban and other jihadists eager to avenge bin Laden now knew which unit to target. Stunned and shocked, SEAL members immediately realized they were going to be hunted by al Qaeda sympathizers.


25 Seals from team 6, that we know of, have been killed.


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I 100% agree that Biden put their lives in danger by outing them and that horrifies me. But to address a different point in the article, the one SEAL's mom said her son told her to remove all posts from social media. I don't understand why their families ever knew that information to begin with, let alone posted about it. Joani, you know that my brother was on a black ops team for over 22-years. We knew he was in Force Recon and we knew his rank, period. We never knew what team he was on, where he was going, for how long,... nothing. Now that he is retired we know *some* of the countries he has been. Not exactly when, not exactly where. Sometimes it's easy to guess, but if we do, we don't ask about it.

We were under strict instruction not to ever post on the internet or speak on the phone or write in email anything about his activities or whereabouts... but we never knew anything to begin with, so we couldn't have. Easy. Seems to me that families of SEALs should be under same protocol.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:43 pm

Joanimaroni wrote:
Once outed, Seals and their families feared the outcome.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3047706/posts


Valarie Plame is still alive.
 Valerie Plame may be alive but you have no way to know which ones of her contacts in other countries may have been killed because of her outing. She was not just a secretary.

And those Seals died in our war in Afghanistan. They weren't murdered one by one in their beds by some assassins.   And as a matter of fact, Rice, I also have a brother who I was told was "not what we thought" by one of his close friends when he was in the military. I knew that he wanted to be in intelligence when he joined up, but he later said he was not accepted. He was stationed in Germany for a very long time and we had no clue what he did over there.
To this day, he does not talk much about his military service.  The families of those Seals should not have been talking about them on social media, and if you remember, one of them even wrote a book about the capture of binLaden.  I'm sure that did nothing to hide which team it was that did the killing either.
Just more trashing of the administration, IMO.

Again, the seals died in battle. They were not assassinated.  Joe Biden did not seal their fate. They did that when they joined the military and became Seals. They knew they would go to war and might die there.  That's exactly what they did. It's what soldiers have done for centuries.  And by the way, the link above from the Free Republic- that's about as respectable a news source to those of us who don't reside on the far corners of the far right as Al Jazeera is to you folks.
And I really did not appreciate the comments under the article suggesting that Seals should go kill the president and vice president of the United States. That is treason itself. Many of those comments are calls for revenge on the CIC of our country. There is even a picture under the article of a hanging gallows suggesting our executive branch should all be hung. Really. I don't care to even look at any more articles in that piece of trash. Kindly try not to use it as a source again, at least not for me to read. I won't be clicking on any link to that filth anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:45 am

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Assuming he was actually Bin Laden who was killed by Obama's order.  There was never any concrete confirmation with a burial at sea. And then we have Biden sealing the fate of the Navy Seals.



On May 3, at an event in Washington, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. did the unthinkable: He publicly revealed the identity of the special-operations unit responsible for bin Laden’s killing. His reckless action put at risk the lives of every member of SEAL Team 6. The Taliban and other jihadists eager to avenge bin Laden now knew which unit to target. Stunned and shocked, SEAL members immediately realized they were going to be hunted by al Qaeda sympathizers.


25 Seals from team 6, that we know of, have been ki



Read more: http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/7/the-betrayal-of-the-navys-seal-team-6/#ixzz39MhpdARS
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All that needed to be said was that Joe Biden spoke....just know that problems will follow...
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:06 am

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Joanimaroni wrote:
Assuming he was actually Bin Laden who was killed by Obama's order.  There was never any concrete confirmation with a burial at sea. And then we have Biden sealing the fate of the Navy Seals.



On May 3, at an event in Washington, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. did the unthinkable: He publicly revealed the identity of the special-operations unit responsible for bin Laden’s killing. His reckless action put at risk the lives of every member of SEAL Team 6. The Taliban and other jihadists eager to avenge bin Laden now knew which unit to target. Stunned and shocked, SEAL members immediately realized they were going to be hunted by al Qaeda sympathizers.


25 Seals from team 6, that we know of, have been killed.


Read more: http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/7/the-betrayal-of-the-navys-seal-team-6/#ixzz39MhpdARS
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I 100% agree that Biden put their lives in danger by outing them and that horrifies me. But to address a different point in the article, the one SEAL's mom said her son told her to remove all posts from social media. I don't understand why their families ever knew that information to begin with, let alone posted about it. Joani, you know that my brother was on a black ops team for over 22-years. We knew he was in Force Recon and we knew his rank, period. We never knew what team he was on, where he was going, for how long,... nothing. Now that he is retired we know *some* of the countries he has been. Not exactly when, not exactly where. Sometimes it's easy to guess, but if we do, we don't ask about it.

We were under strict instruction not to ever post on the internet or speak on the phone or write in email anything about his activities or whereabouts... but we never knew anything to begin with, so we couldn't have. Easy. Seems to me that families of SEALs should be under same protocol.

Riceme.....I understood it to mean regular family social postings not postings referencing him as a Seal. Once identified his family would become a target also.

Many times we were unaware of my brothers location until after the fact. Families can always be used as leverage by the enemy.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:16 pm

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Joanimaroni wrote:
Assuming he was actually Bin Laden who was killed by Obama's order.  There was never any concrete confirmation with a burial at sea. And then we have Biden sealing the fate of the Navy Seals.



On May 3, at an event in Washington, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. did the unthinkable: He publicly revealed the identity of the special-operations unit responsible for bin Laden’s killing. His reckless action put at risk the lives of every member of SEAL Team 6. The Taliban and other jihadists eager to avenge bin Laden now knew which unit to target. Stunned and shocked, SEAL members immediately realized they were going to be hunted by al Qaeda sympathizers.


25 Seals from team 6, that we know of, have been ki



Read more: http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/7/the-betrayal-of-the-navys-seal-team-6/#ixzz39MhpdARS
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     All that needed to be said was that Joe Biden spoke....just know that problems will follow...
 


Joe does have foot in mouth disease and it's an incurable case. However, us crazy leftists know his heart is always in the right place. He has a son who served in the military in war zones too so I don't believe he would ever intend to put any of our service members in danger.

I'd love to see Joe Biden in the White House one day so I'm hoping the right goes ahead and tries to impeach Obama. If they succeeded they'd get a president with a spinal column and they would truly not know what to do with him then.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:39 pm

Joe Biden for president ? You otter know better. Hasn't the office of president suffered enough embarrassment ?
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:46 pm

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Joe Biden for president ? You otter know better.  Hasn't the office of president suffered enough embarrassment ?



I've liked Joe for years. He says what he actually thinks and I agree with him on most things. I got mad at him a few years ago when he voted in favor of the Banking industry on something that I can't remember now, but he came out and explained himself. He came on TV and said that even though he felt the legislation might be slightly unfair to consumers, he voted that way because Maryland was the center of the banking industry in America and he felt he was voting the way his constituents would want him to vote, regardless of his own feelings.

I didn't agree with him on that, but at least he did explain himself.
Otherwise he is strong on Civil Rights, he is a strong advocate for middle class Americans, and and extremely likable man, IMO.

Yes, I think he'd make a good president. He might be like Moses  and have to find an Aaron to do his speechmaking and public comments though because he can be a real klutz when he opens his mouth sometimes.

Harry Truman wasn't a great speaker either but history usually puts him up there on the scale of good presidents.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:49 pm

He's better than Obama. That's about the easiest thing to say.
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PostSubject: Re: Clinton on Sept. 10, 2001: I could have killed bin Laden but 'I didn't'   Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:08 pm

Biden is a liar.
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