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New 'Maunder Minimum' Coming in Not-So-Distant Future?


Forecasts from two well-respected solar researchers are shown in the image above, with the pink like displaying the forecast from Mausumi Dikpati, and the red line from NASA solar physicist David Hathaway. Although they both predicted a relatively quiet solar cycle this time around, they drastically overestimated the weakness of this cycle. Essentially, they forecasted Cycle 25 to have low numbers beyond 2020, yet we're seeing those same values today in 2013.

This revelation can only mean one thing: the Sun will be even weaker than predicted in 2020. If you recall, the Maunder Minimum had snow-covered areas in low latitudes year-round, and ice covered many bodies of water year-round as a result of such a low period of sun activity. If the forecasts are correct, we could see sunspot values struggling to surpass the double digit mark, and that would induce potential Maunder Minimum-like effects. Time will tell, but this is certainly a very ominous sign from the sun that must be watched closely -

See more at: http://theweathercentre.blogspot.com/2013/01/new-maunder-minimum-coming-in-not-so.html#sthash.DLg9Lkqk.dpuf

Please look at this graph:


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The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a period of cooling that occurred after the Medieval Warm Period (Medieval Climate Optimum).[1] While it was not a true ice age, the term was introduced into the scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939.[2] It has been conventionally defined as a period extending from the sixteenth to the nineteenth centuries,[3][4][5] or alternatively, from about 1350 to about 1850
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age


Whaddaya say? Are we due for a cool off?

Global Warming... ahem, "Climate Change"... might buffer the LIA.

There are likely cycles that we have no reference points to understand... and the sun of course being the biggest. There are just too many variables and limitations in our knowledge to draw the sweeping conclusions we see from the UN.

PkrBum wrote:

There are likely cycles that we have no reference points to understand... and the sun of course being the biggest. There are just too many variables and limitations in our knowledge to draw the sweeping conclusions we see from the UN.

I agree.

It does appear that there is some very good data on sun/weather connection. This data often gets left out of the public debate as if it is two separate entities, which it is not as you know.

I don't think of climate change as something that is different all of a sudden upon us. I think of it as just the normal process of earth and I happen to be alive in a very very small part of the transition.

I read some good data on the connection between the sun, ionosphere, water vapor, nocturnal clouds, volcanos and ocean currents etc last night. Yes, it was a long article lol But fascinating and educational.

The sun has gone quiet…solar cycle 24 continues to rank as one of the weakest cycles more than a century





'If history is a guide, it is safe to say that weak solar activity for a prolonged period of time can have a negative impact on global temperatures in the troposphere which is the bottom-most layer of Earth’s atmosphere - and where we all live.'

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By: Marc Morano - Climate DepotJuly 17, 2014 11:32 AM with 622 comments

Via: http://thesiweather.com/2014/07/16/1045-am-the-sun-has-gone-quiet-solar-cycle-24-continues-to-rank-as-one-of-the-weakest-cycles-more-than-a-century/ED

The sun has gone quiet…solar cycle 24 continues to rank as one of the weakest cycles more than a century

solar stuff gif

http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/07/17/the-sun-has-gone-quietsolar-cycle-24-continues-to-rank-as-one-of-the-weakest-cycles-more-than-a-century/

fits

When I was studying at UWF in the early 1970's, the buzzwords weren't Global Warming, is was Global Cooling.

Eric wrote:

When I was studying at UWF in the early 1970's, the buzzwords weren't Global Warming, is was Global Cooling.

Yes, I remember that.

take a looksee..

Back in 1975, C C Wallen, Head of the Special Environmental Applications Division of the World Meteorological Organization, had this to say about the consequences of the cooling trend since 1940:



The principal weather change likely to accompany the cooling trend is increased variability-alternating extremes of temperature and precipitation in any given area-which would almost certainly lower average crop yields.

During cooler climatic periods the high-altitude winds are broken up into irregular cells by weaker and more plentiful pressure centers, causing formation of a "meridional circulation" pattern. These small, weak cells may stagnate over vast areas for many months, bringing unseasonably cold weather on one side and unseasonably warm weather on the other. Droughts and floods become more frequent and may alternate season to season, as they did last year in India. Thus, while the hemisphere as a whole is cooler, individual areas may alternately break temperature and precipitation records at both extremes.

http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2014/04/18/in-the-1970s-the-polar-vortex-was-caused-by-global-cooling/

Cut some extra logs   

http://www.arrl.org/news/the-k7ra-solar-update-331

07/18/2014

Solar activity is suddenly weakening, and yesterday, Thursday, July 17 the daily sunspot number was zero. We had no other zero sunspot days so far this year, none last year or in 2012, and only two in 2011, on January 27 and August 14.

We had 48 days with a sunspot number of zero in 2010 (although Spaceweather.com reports 51 days, and they may be correct), and 260 days with a daily sunspot number of zero in 2009. 2008 had 239 spotless days, and 2007 had 152 days with zero sunspots.

Just to revisit the deep trough of solar inactivity we emerged from a few years ago, 2006 had 70 spotless days, 2005 had just 17 days with no spots and 2004 saw only four spotless days. Prior to that we have to look way back to the twentieth century to 1998 to find any spotless days, (three) and 1997 had 57 days with zero sunspots.

We have not seen any new sunspot regions emerge since July 10 and 11, when there was a new one each day. On July 8 two new regions appeared. Prior to that we saw a new sunspot region appear each day, from July 1-6.

I'd be curious as to what the sun activity was before 1996

I can't look it up now

But if it was high during certain years it would explain some things

From the graph it does appear we are entering a cool spell

I guess we could call it nOn man made climate change

They predict an el nino this year that may pause the cooling trend... but we know the sun is the big driver.

I read a good bit about el ninos last night

A naturally occurring phenomenon

Some scientist thought volcano activity caused it at first. From what I read they still don't know what causes the pacific waters to warm. I think the last idea was the trade winds caused it.

So I had to look up Hadley cell

And wha la